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Re: Interest in a Cosmopolitan build?
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Alex Corcoles |
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Re: Interest in a Cosmopolitan build? |
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Fri, 10 Nov 2023 11:10:27 +0100 |
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Hi,
> > If I understand correctly, they found a way to make something
> that fits
> > all executable formats that major OSs support, plus they embed a
> zip
> > with binaries and dependencies (e.g. parts of /usr/ for Emacs),
> plus
> > they even convinced the POSIX stewards to loosen up the
> definition of
> > what's an executable. Plus a new libc...
>
> Could you possibly explain concretely what "a new libc" means in
> this context? In what sense is it "new"? In what ways is it
> different from the existing libc that any POSIX system would have?
I am afraid I am a novice about systems programming, C, and
portability. I can quote parts from their README:
> Please note that the Cosmopolitan build configuration doesn't link
> any C/C++ library dependencies by default, so you still have the
> flexibility to choose the one provided by your system. If you'd
> prefer Cosmopolitan, just add $(LIBC) and $(CRT) to your linker
>arguments.
> The Cosmopolitan Library exports only the most stable canonical
> system calls for all supported operating systems, regardless of which
> platform is used for compilation. We polyfill many of the APIs, e.g.
> read(), write() so they work consistently everywhere while other
> apis, e.g. CreateWindowEx(), might only work on one platform, in
> which case they become no-op functions on others.
> Please note that, unlike Cygwin or MinGW, Cosmopolitan does not
> achieve broad support by bolting on a POSIX emulation layer. We do
> nothing more than (in most cases) stateless API translations that get
> you 90% of the way there in a fast lightweight manner. We therefore
> can't address some of the subtle differences, such as the nuances of
> absolute paths on Windows.
I can provide you further links, although they host their code on
GitHub. I'm happy to push it to some other Git forge, or host a tarball
of the source on a system of my own. I'm also happy to answer any other
question, although really I don't feel qualified for this discussion.
Not sure, though, if this remains on-topic for this list. Happy to
continue this discussion in some other place if needed.
Cheers,
Álex
- Re: Interest in a Cosmopolitan build?, (continued)
- Re: Interest in a Cosmopolitan build?, Alex Corcoles, 2023/11/08
- Re: Interest in a Cosmopolitan build?, Po Lu, 2023/11/08
- Re: Interest in a Cosmopolitan build?, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/11/09
- Re: Interest in a Cosmopolitan build?, Po Lu, 2023/11/09
- Re: Interest in a Cosmopolitan build?, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/11/09
- Re: Interest in a Cosmopolitan build?, Alex Corcoles, 2023/11/09
- Re: Interest in a Cosmopolitan build?, Richard Stallman, 2023/11/08
- Re: Interest in a Cosmopolitan build?, Alex Corcoles, 2023/11/08