Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?

[Gerd Möllmann]

Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> writes:

> Respect for volunteers is no doubt laudable, but it is very much an
> position to be considered alone which everything you've presented above
> does not impact and nobody takes exception to.  From it, and even
> supposing for the sake of argument that everything else you've said is
> incontrovertible fact, it doesn't really follow that we should not seek
> to reduce the incidence of cl-lib usage in core code.  Now I can't be
> certain that is the object of your militating, if you will, though
> promoting cl-set-difference and cl-position as alternatives to hallowed
> Emacs Lisp constructs does suggest so, but the principle argument
> against these constructs is that they are alien to the small group of
> individuals charged with trudging through code where people want to make
> use of them.  So no contentions resting on their virtues and
> distinctions rather than their prevalence among us can hold water...

(Sorry if I don't cite the whole mail. Please re-add what you find
important.)

Could you perhaps formulate a plan for what should be done? I personally
find something concrete much easier to handle than a back-and-forth of
arguments.