Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?

[Michael Heerdegen]

Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev> writes:

> I like cl-lib (it could be optimized better still, but it's good for
> certain uses), and this discussion doesn't look like it will reach any
> constructive conclusion, so it didn't seem worth it to spend time on
> it.

I also find it a bit exaggerating: cl-lib is large, but the majority of
its uses in Emacs are from a small subset.  In cases where it's
objectively beneficial, using its stuff can make the code actually
better readable.  But everybody should, as always, just select the
simplest tools when coding.  Please let's avoid a discussion about what
different opinions about readability and simplicity we have.

But of course: when we continue to migrate the most useful stuff in
cl-lib out to other libraries (like we did with generic functions,
generalized variables, sequence functions, ...), answering this question
might become harder in the future.

Michael.