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Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?
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Emanuel Berg |
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Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib? |
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Fri, 03 Nov 2023 03:21:30 +0100 |
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Bob Rogers wrote:
> I think we are not really talking about arbitrary decisions
> here, but about language style decisions, which may seem
> arbitrary (especially if you disagree with the style of the
> resulting language!) but do matter to the consistency and
> coherence of the resulting language. And, although my
> experience only goes back to Emacs 18, I think the original
> Emacs Lisp had a definite style that set it apart from other
> Lisp dialects. But that was a long time ago, and Emacs Lisp
> has grown enormously (as someone else pointed out early in
> the original thread) to support the enormous growth in
> Emacs, so that original style is now much harder to see.
> (Indeed, I notice it mostly when updating my old code.)
So let's hear it then, what is it that sets Emacs 18 Elisp
apart from Emacs 30 Elisp
> So, Richard, I see that you are fighting to preserve
> something real and important -- your vision of Emacs Lisp as
> a coherent language --
and how is the Emacs 30 Elisp less coherent than the
Emacs 18 Elisp?
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- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Richard Stallman, 2023/11/01
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Jim Porter, 2023/11/01
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Philip Kaludercic, 2023/11/02
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/11/02
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Philip Kaludercic, 2023/11/02
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Bob Rogers, 2023/11/02
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?,
Emanuel Berg <=
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Bob Rogers, 2023/11/03
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Emanuel Berg, 2023/11/03
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Bob Rogers, 2023/11/03
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Emanuel Berg, 2023/11/04
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Stephen Berman, 2023/11/04
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Emanuel Berg, 2023/11/05
- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Richard Stallman, 2023/11/07
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- Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes people want to use cl-lib?, Alan Mackenzie, 2023/11/08