Re: Changes to make in elpa-packages file for nongnu elpa

[Thierry Volpiatto]

Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:

> Thierry Volpiatto <thievol@posteo.net> writes:
>
>> I see that Helm installation from nongnu elpa doesn't include
>> emacs-helm.sh script, would it be possible to modify this?
>>
>>         diff --git a/elpa-packages b/elpa-packages
>>         index 77d7a5409e..0923724b62 100644
>>         --- a/elpa-packages
>>         +++ b/elpa-packages
>>         @@ -312,11 +312,11 @@
>>            :ignored-files "COPYING")
>>          
>>           (helm                      :url 
>> "https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm";
>>         -  :ignored-files ("images" "Cask" "Makefile" "emacs-helm.sh" 
>> "helm-core.el" "helm.el"
>>         +  :ignored-files ("images" "Makefile" "helm-core.el" "helm.el"
>>                        "helm-lib.el" "helm-source.el" "helm-multi-match.el"))
>>          
>>           (helm-core         :url "https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm";
>>         -  :ignored-files ("images" "Cask" "Makefile" "emacs-helm.sh" 
>> "helm-adaptive.el"
>>         +  :ignored-files ("images" "Makefile" "emacs-helm.sh" 
>> "helm-adaptive.el"
>>                        "helm-bookmark.el" "helm-buffers.el" "helm-color.el" 
>> "helm-comint.el"
>>                        "helm-command.el" "helm-config.el" "helm-dabbrev.el" 
>> "helm-easymenu.el"
>>                        "helm-elisp.el" "helm-elisp-package.el" "helm-epa.el" 
>> "helm-eshell.el"
>
> There shouldn't be any issue in applying this patch, but could you
> explain the propose of this script?

It is used specially for reproducing bugs in a clean environment, see it
as emacs -Q for Emacs when reporting bugs. This script starts Emacs -Q
with only Helm loaded, this ensure the bug if one comes from Helm and
not another package. This is important especially nowaday people are
using "Emacs distribution" with the world list of packages installed.
Apart that the script is useful to quickly launch Emacs with helm, one
can use it from the Helm directory or symlinked to e.g. ~/bin. 

> I see something involving straight.el, which is a
> package.el-incompatible package manager, at which point I am confused
> why this should be distributed along with a "package.el"-package.

The script doesn't need straight, but it ensures the script is usable for
somebody using straight (to find package directory etc...).

>> Also I asked here about a new dependency for Helm called wfnames and had
>> no answer (2 times), 
>
> Sorry about that, you can always feel free to CC me if you have specific
> questions that might get lost on the mailing list.  I suppose Stefan
> Monnier wouldn't object to be mentioned either.

Ok thanks, I will next time now I know you and Stefan are in charge of
this.

>>                      so I ask again differently now:
>>
>> When a package is available in Melpa do we have to add it in nongnu as
>> well to satisfy dependencies for a package already in nongnu?
>
> Yes, if the dependency is missing someone only using GNU ELPA and NonGNU
> ELPA wouldn't be able to install the package due to a missing dependency
> and that is obviously not intended.

Ok, it's what I thought, so yes it would be nice to install wfnames
package in Nongnu.
Here is the link: https://github.com/thierryvolpiatto/wfnames

Thanks.

-- 
Thierry

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