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Re: Contradictiory directions
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Alexandre Garreau |
Subject: |
Re: Contradictiory directions |
Date: |
Thu, 16 Dec 2021 06:15:00 +0100 |
Le merkredo, 15-a de decembro 2021, 19-a horo kaj 28:52 CET Óscar Fuentes
a écrit :
> >> non-free versions of the code are incompatible with the GPL after
> >> all?
> >> <sigh>
>
>
>
> > No, but enough for them to *potentially become* so *without being
> > noticed* by emacs or even the users themselves…
> >
> > …what if one day mac os x or ubuntu or windows starts bundling a
> > version of sqlite with special “improved” extensions that are made
> > proprietary? we don’t want that. We want emacs to break in that
> > case, and potentially the users to do something to become themselves
> > responsible of a such combination of software.
>
> If the OS starts shipping SQLite with "improved" extensions and Emacs
> uses it, it is the same as any other OS-provided library: acceptable by
> GNU, although undesirable.
>
> Please note how you do talk about problematic extensions but not about a
> problematic OS-provided SQLite shared library. Why are we so concerned
> with the possibility of unholy extensions and not so much with the
> possibility of an unholy SQLite binary? Because in that case the only
> choice is to not use SQLite at all? (and most other Free but not GPL
> libraries)
Indeed, and it was mentioned before, that it would make sense to check for
the gpl-compatibility symbol inside sqlite as well, since it’s not
copylefted.
> Seriously, let's stop making up dramas based on scenarios disconnected
> from reality. The propietary software industry does not give a rat ass
> about Emacs
it’s not paranoia about emacs; they could not dare about emacs and yet
dare about sqlite and not about their users’ freedom; we are emacs and
want to protect users’ freedom
> and soon it will not give a rat ass about Gcc either,
> because there are better *free* alternatives, which arose in great part
> thanks to stances like this.
gcc and emacs are free, you are talking about free but potentially non-
free alternatives, and the difference is not appealing
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