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Arthur Miller |
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Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets) |
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Wed, 25 Nov 2020 16:26:53 +0100 |
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Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
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>
> > was, but it was also before the Node and before JS become ubiquitious in
> > every application,
>
> People can use web apps if they wish, but please do not tell people
> that that's all there is nowadays.
Convenience; everything is in the browser, in one application; it is
just like Emacs. They check mail online, write their documents online,
everything is online. Browser is the Emacs of millenials. Until
connection gets cut. I have been in a war and don't trust anyone; so I
have everything on my own harddrives and prefer real computer
applications to browser, but when I really think of it; browser is
equivalent to how we use Emacs. We have our apps as "packages" written
in Lisp instead of JS.
> That old way is also the way that is good for users' control of the
> software. Distros package the program and offer their own versions.
> In doing this, they audit the code. Not completely, but it's still a
> good thing. The distros compete but also learn from each other. That
> is the way in which our community traditionally protects itself
> against malware and bugs.
>
> "Web applications", even if their code is released as free software,
> structure a system of release and usage which has no room for distros,
> and this interferes with users' having control over the program.
Indeed; And control over the program and in the very end the user, is
why companies are so in love with webapps.
- Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets), (continued)
- Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets), Arthur Miller, 2020/11/27
- Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets), Richard Stallman, 2020/11/27
- Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets), Arthur Miller, 2020/11/27
- Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets), Eli Zaretskii, 2020/11/27
- Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets), Stefan Monnier, 2020/11/27
- Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets), Arthur Miller, 2020/11/24
- Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets), tomas, 2020/11/24
- Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets), Arthur Miller, 2020/11/24
- Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets), Richard Stallman, 2020/11/25
- Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets), tomas, 2020/11/25
- Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets),
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- Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets), T.V Raman, 2020/11/24
- Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets), Richard Stallman, 2020/11/25
- Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets), tomas, 2020/11/25
- Re: Introducing emacs-webkit and more thoughts on Emacs rendering (was Rethinking the design of xwidgets), Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2020/11/24
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