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Re: "Themes" shipping configuration - an unusual convention
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Stefan Monnier |
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Re: "Themes" shipping configuration - an unusual convention |
Date: |
Thu, 30 Apr 2020 08:21:37 -0400 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
> So a theme can be used to change configuration, and indeed this is the
> recommended way to do it. Interesting, and news to me.
A custom-theme is a set of custom settings, yes.
> AFAIK, all other applications I have used understand "theme" to mean a
> "package containing graphical appearance details". This definition
> from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theme_(computing)
Yes, but at the same time, it's hard to draw the line: if a theme
controls the shape of menus (e.g. chooses between scroll-down menus and
pie-menus), is it "graphical appareance"?
What about the structure of a menu? What about the place where
completions are displayed (a popup child frame vs the *Completions*
buffer)?
In any case, I'm not sure we want to start adding an artificial barrier:
the underlying technique conflates the two and I don't think it's
a problem, even if it doesn't correspond to what some other applications
offer (FWIW, I believe some application's themes are also able to change
pretty much any aspect of the behavior. IIRC that's the case for
Enlightenment, for example).
> I don't think users will expect a "theme" to modify the behavior
> of Emacs.
It wouldn't be the first time that Emacs goes beyond users expectations ;-)
> We could introduce a *separate* convention, called e.g. "custom
> profiles", which are understood to also change settings. They could
> have their own directory in our tree called "etc/profiles", and
> separate commands to load them (say, M-x load-profile).
I'm fine with using a different naming convention for the actual
behavior-oriented themes, but I see no need to hide the fact that the
implementation is the same.
Stefan
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