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Re: Some ideas with Emacs
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Marcin Borkowski |
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Re: Some ideas with Emacs |
Date: |
Tue, 03 Dec 2019 00:04:58 +0100 |
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mu4e 1.1.0; emacs 27.0.50 |
On 2019-12-02, at 23:41, Stefan Monnier <address@hidden> wrote:
>> I never said I want to write a "free" (as in FSF) book.
>
> I'm not talking about any particular book or any particular author, but
> I'm concerned here about whether I would consider a license "Free
> enough" that I'd feel comfortable recommending the book to someone.
OK. Does that mean that you only recommend "free" books to anyone? Do
you make a distinction between paper books and electronic books?
Just in case: I'm not attacking you, RMS or anyone else. I'm trying to
understand your opinions (which I think I disagree with). Quite
possibly I'm attacking some of your opinions (e.g. because I consider
them false), but this is something else.
>> I didn't say "disallowing". I said "disallowing without an explicit
>> consent".
>
> That's pretty much the same, actually: a license only says what you can
> do without asking for additional permission. It doesn't prevent the
> author from giving additional permissions upon request.
I can agree with this.
>> Have you heard the story about the infamous Swedish
>> translation of LotR? While I would not compare any of my books (written
>> or to-be-written) with that of master JRRT, this is an important
>> cautionary tale.
>
> That's why I said:
>
> I can agree that the author may not want to have his name directly
> attached to the translation, but that's a far cry from disallowing
> translations altogether.
>
> E.g. I could accept a license which states that any derivative work
> (translation or otherwise) needs to use a different title and/or clearly
> say not only that it's a derivative of your work but also that it is not
> your work. Or something along these lines.
That sounds fairly reasonable to me, I guess. Does GFDL work this way?
I'm wondering whether there is some middle ground between CC-ND and GFDL
here. For instance, one of the ideas I have would be to release a book
under a strict license, disallowing even copying verbatim, then under
CC-ND-something after, say, 3-5 years, and then GFDL after another 3-5
years. This looks pretty fair to me.
On the other hand, such a scheme provokes an obvious question - why not
GFDL right away? I don't have a good answer to this, I admit. I would
probably be afraid that I'd lost a fair portion of any financial
compensation. A book I coauthored was released under CC-BY-NC-SA (I
would probably substitute ND for NC today), and - together with my
coauthor - we almost earned the amount of money we put into it (IOW, we
had a net loss). That's not entirely encouraging (although to be fair,
we did not aim for profit with that book).
Best,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl
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