Re: emacs-26: `with-eval-after-load' docstring omission

[Vicente Vera]

Hmm, I see. I'm sorry for the noise.

Also, from what's been said here, the internal behavior of both
functions is broadly equivalent?


2018-03-04 16:04 GMT+00:00 Vicente Vera <address@hidden>:
> “Hmm. eval-after-load doesn't pass forms through eval, actually,
> AFAICT (it uses a lambda, just like with-eval-after-load)”
>
> “The whole point of with-eval-after-load is that it doesn't do the
> "double evaluation" of eval-after-load (which was a frequent source of
> errors/confusion).”
>
> Indeed. So the difference between the two is:
> - ‘with-eval-after-load’ calls ‘eval-after-load’ to run BODY as a
>   function. Conveniently, there's no need to quote nor wrap
>   expressions in a lambda form.
> - ‘eval-after-load’ runs FORM as a function in both cases: if FORM is
>   a function or a quoted expression. The latter is the "double
>   evaluation" case: ‘eval-after-load’ is called twice to wrap FORM as
>   a function.
>
> Still, an elaboration on the behavior of ‘with-eval-after-load’ could
> be useful. Something like: "BODY will be called as a function with no
> arguments through ‘funcall’." (as per ‘eval-after-load’
> docstring). And probably an addition to the last paragraph: "See
> ‘eval-after-load’ for more details about... and how BODY will be
> evaluated.".
>
>
> 2018-03-03 15:06 GMT+00:00 Vicente Vera <address@hidden>:
>> (In reply to Stefan.)
>>
>> No, there is no specific issue involved. Just some harmless and
>> temporary confusion, that's all.
>>
>> After reading ‘with-eval-after-load’ docstring (which just says
>> "Execute BODY after FILE is loaded.") I expected that BODY would be
>> executed just like in ‘eval-after-load’, which by default passes forms
>> to ‘eval’.
>>
>> My argument is that there are implicit behaviours that *might* lead to
>> wrong assumptions. In my case, I had to look at ‘with-eval-after-load’
>> code and re-read ‘eval-after-load’ docstring to clearly understand the
>> differences.
>>
>>
>> 2018-02-23 13:42 GMT+00:00 Vicente Vera <address@hidden>:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> Currently, ‘with-eval-after-load’ docstring doesn't mention that BODY
>>> is executed as a lambda expression through funcall. The docstrings
>>> refers to ‘eval-after-load’ regarding the FILE argument, but not how
>>> BODY is executed.