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Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/internationa
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Stefan Monnier |
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Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim |
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Thu, 03 Sep 2015 10:34:25 -0400 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
>> W.r.t ambiguity, the main problem I see is that we currently can never
>> be sure that when we see a ` followed by a ' the two actually form a pair.
>> A human usually can tell, but a program can't get it right 100% of the time.
> Okay. But then, there's no problem in using the same quoting for key
> sequences, aside from the quote-matching algorithm.
I'm not fundamentally opposed to it, but I'd like the rule to be *simple*.
If we try and accommodate key sequences, I'm afraid the rule will become
too complex, and we'll bump into corner cases like how to
quote key sequences like C-x ' or M-`. In most cases, there shouldn't
be key sequences in docstrings anyway since we should use \\[...]
instead, so there's no strong need to accommodate quoting of key sequences.
>> Not sure I want to go down that road. What about `(foo 'a 'b)' ?
> That, too. At least if this quote-matching logic is implemented in Elisp,
> forward-sexp can take care of skipping the spaces.
Yes, again it can be made to work. But what it boils down to is this:
- `...' can't handle all cases without breaking existing uses, so we'll
need another quoting mechanism anyway.
- in most cases, I don't see a strong need to quote code like (foo a b).
Maybe at some point we'll start doing things like "prettifying" the
code in docstrings, at which point we'll need it to be quoted, but
until that happens, the cost/benefit tradeoff is in favor of keeping
the code unquoted.
- so I don't see a strong need to accommodate quoting like `(foo a b)'.
If the simple rule we devise happens to allow it, that's fine,
of course.
Stefan
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, (continued)
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, Stefan Monnier, 2015/09/02
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, Paul Eggert, 2015/09/01
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, Richard Stallman, 2015/09/06
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, Dmitry Gutov, 2015/09/01
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, Stefan Monnier, 2015/09/01
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, David Kastrup, 2015/09/02
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, Dmitry Gutov, 2015/09/02
- Quoting yank/diff prefixes (was: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim), David Kastrup, 2015/09/02
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim,
Stefan Monnier <=
Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, Richard Stallman, 2015/09/01