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Re: HTML-Info design
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Ivan Shmakov |
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Re: HTML-Info design |
Date: |
Mon, 29 Dec 2014 12:20:26 +0000 |
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>>>>> Lars Ingebrigtsen <address@hidden> writes:
>>>>> Ivan Shmakov <address@hidden> writes:
>> As per the current shr.el version, this only affects HTML documents
>> which use tables to implement such layouts, – and HTML5 already
>> discourages that [1]:
> The reality is that these layouts are very common. I don't see any
> need to discuss that point further.
Good. Still, such layouts are a nuisance to deal with in EWW
(or with any other code that relies on SHR, for that matter.)
Consider, for instance, the following:
This is the sidebar, which This is the page content proper.
is placed to the left of the Emacs may apply its usual
“payload” content in the facilities to flow it as
browsers implementing (a necessary, without any trouble
larger subset of) CSS. whatsoever. For one thing, many
Unless being tweaked by the MediaWiki instances use exactly
user to his or her own this layout.
taste, that is.
Now, what’s the easy way to put the second sentence of the right
column into the kill ring?
My idea is that EWW should provide a way for the user to ignore
the “layout” tables, – either applying some heuristics (there’re
some ideas on that in [1], BTW), or via an explicit user command
(not dissimilar to eww-readable, I guess, – I do not seem to
understand what the latter is intended to do.) Or both.
Sure, we may instead try to improve the Emacs display model to
support such layouts natively, but, well, – I won’t believe
/that/ until I see actual patches to that end.
>> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/tabular-data.html#the-table-element
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- Re: HTML-Info design, (continued)
- bug#19462: shr: use wrap-prefix when possible, instead of filling the text, Ivan Shmakov, 2014/12/29
- Re: bug#19462: shr: use wrap-prefix when possible, instead of filling the text, Ivan Shmakov, 2014/12/29
- word-wrap and wrapping before window-width (was: bug#19462: shr: use wrap-prefix when possible, instead of filling the text), Stefan Monnier, 2014/12/29
- Re: word-wrap and wrapping before window-width, Ivan Shmakov, 2014/12/29
- Re: HTML-Info design, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2014/12/29
- Re: HTML-Info design, Ivan Shmakov, 2014/12/29
- Re: HTML-Info design, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2014/12/29
- Re: HTML-Info design,
Ivan Shmakov <=
- Re: HTML-Info design, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2014/12/29
- Re: HTML-Info design, Lennart Borgman, 2014/12/29
- Re: HTML-Info design, Ivan Shmakov, 2014/12/29
- Re: HTML-Info design, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2014/12/29
- Re: HTML-Info design, Lennart Borgman, 2014/12/29
- Re: HTML-Info design, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2014/12/29
- Re: HTML-Info design, Ivan Shmakov, 2014/12/29
- Re: HTML-Info design, Eli Zaretskii, 2014/12/29
- Re: HTML-Info design, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2014/12/29
- Re: HTML-Info design, Stefan Monnier, 2014/12/29