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Re: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties
From: |
Stephen J. Turnbull |
Subject: |
Re: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties |
Date: |
Thu, 28 Nov 2013 13:04:03 +0900 |
Lennart Borgman writes:
> The capability to export from .org files to LibreOffice etc is a very
> good feature.
That's arguable. It means that you may not be able to roundtrip editing:
> However the trouble is you can not import LibreOffice (since .org
> files can't handle all of the structure).
That's T.V.'s point, you see. Well, actually you have to look at *why*
you can't import it. So, let's see ....
How often do you actually need the structure that's imposed? Consider
the HTML email I'm responding to, which is a response to a plain text
email. In my (ancient broken) MUA, your email completely screws up the
display and confuses the message-mode buffer when I yank it. Did you
actually use any features that aren't present in plain text to express
your ideas? No. But you screwed up my MUA (which is HTML-aware, but
not good enough to handle the crap produced by HTML-oriented MUAs)
anyway, for no good reason. The same thing will happen to you if you
export a document composed in org-mode to .odt so a person who uses
*Office can edit it. Every time, regardless of need for features that
org doesn't provide.
*Most of the time* there's no *content* or *expression* in a .doc or
.odt file that org-mode can't handle fine. But you still can't import
it. That's just *wrong*.
I will grant Drew's point: I'm sure that the high-end WYSIWYG programs
do keep a good separation between content (including expressive
semantics such as "emphasis") and presentation. But *Office doesn't,
and won't for a decade, I expect. And that's our target, not
Framemaker, because the people we need to exchange documents with use
*Office.
- Re: Emacs as word processor, (continued)
- Re: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties, Pascal J. Bourguignon, 2013/11/26
- Re: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties, Richard Stallman, 2013/11/26
- Re: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties, T.V. Raman, 2013/11/27
- RE: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties, Drew Adams, 2013/11/27
- Re: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties, T.V. Raman, 2013/11/27
- RE: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties, Drew Adams, 2013/11/27
- Re: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties, T.V. Raman, 2013/11/27
- Re: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties, Lennart Borgman, 2013/11/27
- Re: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties,
Stephen J. Turnbull <=
- RE: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties, Drew Adams, 2013/11/28
- RE: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2013/11/28
- Re: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties, Bastien, 2013/11/28
- Re: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties, Andreas Röhler, 2013/11/28
- Re: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties, Jambunathan K, 2013/11/29
- Re: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties, Jambunathan K, 2013/11/29
- Re: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties, Bastien, 2013/11/29
- Re: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties, Jambunathan K, 2013/11/29
- Re: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties, Bastien, 2013/11/29
- Re: Emacs as word processor / Text Properties, Eli Zaretskii, 2013/11/29