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Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation
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Dave Abrahams |
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Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation |
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Thu, 28 Jul 2011 20:51:41 -0400 |
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Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/23.3 (darwin) |
on Thu Jul 28 2011, Tim Cross <theophilusx-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
> It seems that the issue isn't really about conflict detection per se,
> but rather how emacs implements it via symlinks.
It's actually more than that. The scheme is simultaneously
over-cautious and yet full of holes. It's predicated on the idea that
everybody who might touch the file simultaneously is using Emacs, but
that's obviously a fallacy. Any program that doesn't respect Emacs'
convention and look for the lock file (e.g. every command-line tool in
existence) will happily write the file even when I have a lock on it.
Furthermore, Emacs is perfectly capable of telling me when that has
happened before I save... at least it seems to work pretty darned
reliably. So I think this feature made sense once upon a time but is
now just a vestigial flipper.
Am I missing something? I could be.
--
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com
- Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation, Dave Abrahams, 2011/07/26
- Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation, Andreas Schwab, 2011/07/27
- Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation, Dave Abrahams, 2011/07/27
- Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation, John Wiegley, 2011/07/27
- Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2011/07/27
- Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation, Richard Stallman, 2011/07/28
- Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation, Lennart Borgman, 2011/07/28
- Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation, Richard Stallman, 2011/07/28
- Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation, Tim Cross, 2011/07/28
- Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation,
Dave Abrahams <=
- Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation, Richard Stallman, 2011/07/29
- Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation, Dave Abrahams, 2011/07/30
- Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation, Eli Zaretskii, 2011/07/30
- Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation, Dave Abrahams, 2011/07/30
- Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation, Richard Stallman, 2011/07/30
- Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation, Tim Cross, 2011/07/30
- Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation, Richard Stallman, 2011/07/29
- Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation, Dave Abrahams, 2011/07/30
- Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation, chad, 2011/07/28
- Re: Proposed patch: allow user to disable lockfile creation, Richard Stallman, 2011/07/28