RE: mode-line tooltips for "[" and "]" in recursive-edit

[Drew Adams]

> Could you please respect the mail headers? (This is not the fist time
> you are doing this).

No idea what you are talking about. I simply hit `Reply All'. I quoted your
message in full (except for the final "Thanks!"). I changed nothing
(consciously) in the message header. What's the problem?

>   > > It would be nice if [ and ] that appear in the mode-line in
>   > > recursive-edit had a tooltip explaining what they are.  
>   > > Such tooltips will be helpful for beginners.
>   > > 
>   > > Can someone please add the tooltips?
>   > 
>   > Why do you suggest a change and then, in the same breath, 
>   > ask someone to go ahead and install it? Isn't that jumping
>   > the gun a bit?
> 
> It is jumping the gun when dealing with someone that just wants to
> nitpick.  Someone that wants to cooperate can choose to 
> actually discuss the idea.

Bof.

I did discuss the idea, even though discussion was hardly invited (and is
apparently hardly appreciated).

>   > I, for one, think this enhancement would be silly. 
>   > Tooltips for the mode-line abound already. 
> 
> The logic here is flawed: the fact that the mode-line has tooltips for
> other unrelated items has zero implications about the tooltips for
> recursive-edit.

Sure, logically there is nothing wrong with adding a tooltip to describe []
- it is independent of other stuff on the mode-line - I agree. I just think
its unnecessary and we don't want to overcharge the mode-line with too many
tooltips. Just one opinion.

To be clear, I have no great objection to your doing this. I just think it
is more noise than real help. I was clear that my post was mainly about your
attitude. If I misread your attitude, I apologize - I may have jumped the
gun, myself, in that regard.

> To explain why this is needed: good UI design provides clues for what
> the elements of the UI.  Tooltips are a way to provide such clues, we
> use them already.  Suggestions for alternative

That describes tooltips in general, and their raison d'etre. It is not an
argument for adding these particular tooltips. 

>   > Users can read the doc for [].
> 
> There's no easy way for the users to find those docs.

OK, go for it. Tooltip away. I don't mind.