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Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?
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Simon Josefsson |
Subject: |
Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions? |
Date: |
Fri, 24 May 2002 18:34:53 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.2.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) |
address@hidden (Kai writes:
> Karl Eichwalder <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> Richard Stallman <address@hidden> writes:
>>
>>> It would be interesting to try implementing this in Emacs; I don't
>>> think it should be terribly hard.
>>
>> Note, using mouse-2 for dragging is "wrong" -- maybe, Motif does it this
>> way, but the majority of all potential user are used to drag objects
>> with mouse-1.
>
> Programs which use mouse-1 for dragging the selected text: How do
> they enable the user to make a new selection? This is presumably also
> done with dragging mouse-1.
Yes. If you drag mouse-1 inside the current selection you get
drag'n'drop, if you drag mouse-1 anywhere else it marks.
>> BTw, mouse-2 is basically a no-op on many a lot devices, esp. on such a
>> device like my notebook. And there are mice with only 1 button!
>
> You mean it's hard to hit? Maybe yes.
I agree. I don't have mouse-2 on my laptop. I can use all GNOME &
KDE applications just fine, but Emacs is almost unusable until I plug
in an external mouse.
The mark/drag behaviour above isn't the only problematic thing in
Emacs if you don't have mouse-2 -- GNOME and KDE have RMB (mouse-3)
menus in input fields which contain "Paste" and "Copy" which are very
useful if you don't have mouse-2.
I would offer to work on this if I had time, but making user
interfaces usable isn't my area of expertise so I'll probably just
waste my time. Still, as a user I certainly have opinions on how the
application should work though. :-)
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, (continued)
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, Robert J. Chassell, 2002/05/21
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, Simon Josefsson, 2002/05/21
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, Karl Eichwalder, 2002/05/21
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, Miles Bader, 2002/05/21
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, Kai Großjohann, 2002/05/22
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, Miles Bader, 2002/05/22
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, Kai Großjohann, 2002/05/22
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, Richard Stallman, 2002/05/23
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, Karl Eichwalder, 2002/05/24
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, Kai Großjohann, 2002/05/24
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?,
Simon Josefsson <=
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, Robert J. Chassell, 2002/05/24
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, Simon Josefsson, 2002/05/24
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, Robert J. Chassell, 2002/05/24
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, Kai Großjohann, 2002/05/25
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, Eli Zaretskii, 2002/05/25
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, Miles Bader, 2002/05/24
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, Karl Eichwalder, 2002/05/24
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, Robert J. Chassell, 2002/05/24
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, Richard Stallman, 2002/05/25
- Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions?, Simon Josefsson, 2002/05/25