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bug#67637: closed (shell-command-default-error-buffer loss of warning)


From: GNU bug Tracking System
Subject: bug#67637: closed (shell-command-default-error-buffer loss of warning)
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2023 14:51:02 +0000

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regarding shell-command-default-error-buffer loss of warning
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--- Begin Message --- Subject: shell-command-default-error-buffer loss of warning Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2023 10:27:51 +0800
(Never mind https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=67542 .
I have found the real problem.)

$ emacs -Q --eval '(setq shell-command-default-error-buffer 
"shell-command-errors")'
M-! ls zzzzzzzz
(Shell command failed with code 2 and some error output to the 
"shell-command-errors" buffer)

OK, we now grow to expect that we will get helpful notification that
something about "some error output to the "shell-command-errors"
buffer". That's great.

Until one day when we instead do
M-! ls .emacs zzzzzzzz #one file that exists and one that doesn't

In this case the bug steps in:
Even though there indeed is
"some error output to the "shell-command-errors"
but there is no message in the minibuffer about it!

That indeed there is also some STDOUT produced does *not* mean
we somehow are in some party mood and no longer care about the fact that
indeed the same complete
"Shell command failed with code 2 and some error output to the 
"shell-command-errors" buffer"
is 100% still true.

One might think that "oh, that's just the one line successful output
covering up the error message in the minibuffer." But the same problem
occurs with
M-! ls . zzzzzzzz








--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message --- Subject: Re: bug#67637: shell-command-default-error-buffer loss of warning Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2023 06:50:35 -0800
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> All I can suggest is "don't do that".  Not unless you intend keeping
> in mind that the error messages are in a separate buffer.
>
> This option exists for special situations, not for general-purpose
> running of shell commands that might produce some important
> information on standard error stream.
>
> I don't think we should do anything here.

I'm therefore closing this bug report.


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