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bug#48193: closed (Youngsters in charge of emacs vs. basic Bourne shell


From: GNU bug Tracking System
Subject: bug#48193: closed (Youngsters in charge of emacs vs. basic Bourne shell "for" statement)
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 15:03:03 +0000

Your message dated Sat, 14 Oct 2023 11:01:40 -0400
with message-id <jwvpm1hjljr.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
and subject line Re: bug#2910: 23.0.60; Shell-script coloring bug
has caused the debbugs.gnu.org bug report #26217,
regarding Youngsters in charge of emacs vs. basic Bourne shell "for" statement
to be marked as done.

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--- Begin Message --- Subject: Youngsters in charge of emacs vs. basic Bourne shell "for" statement Date: Mon, 03 May 2021 22:48:16 +0800
for i do
    true
done
    : This line and the whole rest of the program misindented because emacs 
shallow knowlege of shell grammar.
    : Test with TAB. Emacs only knows about:
    for i
    do
        true
    done
    : If this was python, well, you would have to have the language change to 
accomidate emacs.
    : Also if we are colaborating on a big project we cannot just rip up line 
of other peoples code so
    : they are not misindeted for only us.
    : Yes, some emacs programmers do not know shell grammar and just assume... 
indeed the word "do" on the
    : first line is not even in a different color. But the word in right here 
in this line is! Three times!
    : Hmmm, [including this part of] the sh language is, maybe 50 years
    : old. Not something checkbashisms --extra --force --posix has an issue 
with. It is part
    : of sh, bash, dash, ksh, ...
    : I.e., not something invented before emacs...
    : What could be even older? Well, sh must have been written in C...
    : Yes, I reported this before. But it was closed by programmers who
    : do not know basic Bourne shell "for" statement grammar.
    : emacs-version "27.1"

Indeed, I was just reading in RISKS Digest,

> https://www.wired.com/story/ai-latest-trick-writing-computer-code/

> What fun -- being second-guessed in real time by software that doesn't
> understand my code...



--- End Message ---
--- Begin Message --- Subject: Re: bug#2910: 23.0.60; Shell-script coloring bug Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 11:01:40 -0400 User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13)
>> I haven't found problems, but I'm suspicious because it seems too easy.
> Welcome to the world of Emacs, where "if it's easy it must be right".

BTW, pushed to `master`, thank you.


        Stefan



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