[DotGNU]DotGNU/Jabber Meeting Log for Oct 25

[Adam Theo]

hi, all. here's this week's DotGNU/Jabber meeting log.  :-)

it's very short since i forgot to announce and advertise it this week, 
so only one person (rikard) showed up. but we went on with the meeting 
anyway!  :-)

just for future ref, it's every Thursday at 19:00 GMT (3pm Eastern US) 
on address@hidden (jabber chatroom).

[15:12] <rikard> What ideas do you have about getting the collaboration 
in action? What's the first thing to do?
[15:13] <theo> i think the first thing is set up a mailing list,
[15:14] <theo> specifically for dotgnu/jabber collaborration.
[15:14] <theo> i'm going to email norbert to ask if he wants to set up 
address@hidden or something.
[15:14] <theo> this mailing list will bring in alot more people that are 
in different time zones as well as not able to get onto jabber at this time.
[15:15] <theo> it won't replace these meetings,
[15:15] <theo> it will suppliment them.
[15:15] <rikard> a mailinglist is good
[15:16] <rikard> but maybe the meetings can be held once every two 
weeks, like the foundation meetings
[15:16] <rikard> when there's a mailing list
[15:17] <theo> sounds good.
[15:17] <theo> i'll see what dotgnu thinks.
[15:17] <theo> also,
[15:17] <theo> i think a few webpages need to be set up on the dotgnu 
website,
[15:17] <theo> that are basically an introduction to jabber and it's 
potential.
[15:17] <rikard> yep, definitely
[15:18] <theo> most dotgnu'ers don't know what jabber is, let alone how 
it can help.
[15:18] <theo> and i'll try to get a link made on the jabber.org website 
to dotgnu.org
[15:18] <rikard> they really should make a better overview of the 
practical stuff that needs to be done to realize their vision
[15:18] <theo> so jabberites can learn about dotgnu.
[15:18] <rikard> right
[15:19] <theo> yes, i agree.
[15:19] <rikard> i'll suggest it to norbert
[15:19] <theo> oh, cool.
[15:19] <theo> you talk to him often?
[15:20] <theo> can you think of any other things that could be done to 
help the collaboration?
[15:20] <rikard> eh no, but we had a long conversation here before (or 
was it after) one of these meetings
[15:20] <theo> yes, it was last time, i think.
[15:20] <theo> ok, sounds excellent.
[15:20] <rikard> hmm, i'll think about it and write down some thoughts
[15:22] <rikard> your Jabber p2p ideas are relevant, i'd say
[15:24] <theo> yes, true.
[15:25] <theo> i'm hoping to start work on jabber p2p in about 4 months.
[15:25] <theo> that's the timeframe, anyway.
[15:25] <rikard> great
[15:26] <theo> what do you think about authentication?
[15:26] <theo> any comments you didn't get inlast meeting?
[15:26] <theo> or new developments?
[15:27] <theo> oh, mike has made some worked code already,
[15:27] <theo> for jabber authentication/single sign on.
[15:27] <theo> i tried it out yesterday.
[15:27] <rikard> well, it seems like it should be good fit but i'm don't 
know much about it so i can't really make a good judgement
[15:27] <rikard> oh wow
[15:27] <rikard> really???
[15:27] <theo> it's still very basic, and only does website redirection 
like passport,
[15:27] <theo> but he's coming along fast.
[15:28] <rikard> so that would mean i would only need to log in once to 
access all jabber-connected sites??
[15:30] <theo> yep.
[15:30] <theo> how it works:
[15:30] <theo> with every website,
[15:30] <theo> you need to log in once, at least.
[15:31] <theo> then a session ticket is stored either in the web 
browser, or possibly some other method that future tech will have.
[15:32] <theo> everytime you visit the website, your session ticket is 
used to see who you are, and that you've already been authenticated with 
that website.
[15:32] <theo> your JID could be stored in your web browser,
[15:32] <rikard> =) very cool
[15:32] <theo> so every website you visit can automatically do the 
authentication when you click on, say, a button on the webpage.
[15:32] <theo> you wouldn't have to type anything in at all...
[15:33] <theo> just do a couple of clicks.
[15:35] <rikard> do you think it's possible to make a "save password" 
feature => no click at all ???
[15:35] <theo> yep.
[15:36] <theo> in Mozilla,
[15:36] <theo> for example.
[15:36] <theo> yeah, it's certainly possibly.
[15:36] <theo> will take a bit of coding, but could be done.
[15:36] <theo> and what's more,
[15:36] <rikard> :-) yeees
[15:36] <theo> we could modify mozilla to ask for username/server/password,
[15:36] <theo> and would log into your jabber account itself,
[15:37] <theo> as something like address@hidden/mozilla
[15:37] <theo> and fetch stuff from your jabber account,like bookmarks, 
saved passwords (form filler data), etc....
[15:38] <rikard> Oh
[15:38] <rikard> right, that is awesome
[15:40] <rikard> actually
[15:41] <theo> another thing i want to do is get a couple of GNU/FSF 
people on Jabber Foundation's board,
[15:41] %% rikard has left
[15:42] %% rikardlinde has joined
[15:42] <rikardlinde> whoops
[15:45] <theo> np.
[15:45] <theo> welcome back  :)
[15:45] <theo> what happened?
[15:45] <theo> [15:38] <rikard> Oh
[15:38] <rikard> right, that is awesome
[15:40] <rikard> actually
[15:41] <theo> another thing i want to do is get a couple of GNU/FSF 
people on Jabber Foundation's board,
[15:46] <theo> that was the last things from you and me.
[15:46] <rikardlinde> oh ok, right
[15:47] <rikardlinde> my client went down
[15:47] <rikardlinde> what does the board do?
[15:48] <theo> umm...
[15:49] <theo> advisory board, i think.
[15:49] <theo> lemme check the website.
[15:50] <theo> hm...
[15:50] <theo> i guess it's the board of directors that the foundation 
allows corporations to be on....
[15:50] <theo> who is the IBM guy?
[15:51] <rikardlinde> ok
[15:51] <theo> is it Dan Powers?
[15:51] <theo> yeah,
[15:51] <theo> it's Dan. he's the one from IBM.
[15:51] <theo> perhaps we can get a couple of people from GNU/FSF on it 
as well.
[15:51] <rikardlinde> the council is the group giving technical advice
[15:52] <rikardlinde> yes, dan powers. he was at jabbercon
[15:52] <rikardlinde> IBM
[15:52] <rikardlinde> 's actually
[15:52] <rikardlinde> quite into jabber
[15:52] <rikardlinde> or at least i think so
[15:52] <rikardlinde> If I remember correctly there were like four 
people from IBM at the conference
[15:54] <theo> cool.
[15:55] <theo> i think Dan's the only one actually in the Foundation, 
though.
[15:55] <rikardlinde> but yes, it's probably a good idea to make closer 
contact to get the collaboration going
[15:55] <theo> yep.
[15:55] <rikardlinde> yep, looks that way
[15:55] <theo> i'll contact jer et all and ask about the process for 
getting members onto the Board.
[15:56] <theo> i wonderif Norbert would be interested  :)
[15:56] <rikardlinde> yep, it would be interesting to hear his views on 
this whole thing
[15:56] <rikardlinde> i'm sure he would:-)
[15:56] <theo> the Foundation could use his skills.

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