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Re: [Dfey-nw-discuss] Website - www.dfey.org


From: Robert Leverington
Subject: Re: [Dfey-nw-discuss] Website - www.dfey.org
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:40:57 +0000
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On 2009-07-28, Mike Little wrote:
> The biggest barrier seems to be the endless talking about it. The
> problem with theorising about something is that it can go on forever.
> 
> Get a site up (and a wiki is not a site in this context), try it, then
> constructive comments can be made on something concrete and changes
> implemented instantly if needed, quickly if not.

Absolutley, but the problem is that if someone does set a site up to try
it out there will be someone whinging about it not being a group
decision - regardless of intent.

Tim mentioned writing an e-mail about this, so I'm going to wait until
that is posted - and depending on what it says I'll go right ahead and
finish the installation I started before people started moaning.  We can
review it after a couple of weeks or something.

> > Once discussion started again on the list Tim made an excellent case for
> > having an entirely static site, which I think we should still consider.
> 
> I do not believe there is any case for a static site with more than
> two or three pages in preference over a WordPress based site, given
> the technical competence of the group, and unless your are on
> free/cheap hosting with no scripting or database.
> 
> 
> > For a start it would be significantly easier to style ourselves given
> > that there would not be a necessity to incorporate things like comments,
> > and so on.
> >
> 
> Completely untrue. If you can produce me a static XHTML page of the
> design I can turn it into a WordPress template very simply.

I'm sure this will be appreciated if we go down that route, than you for
the offer.

> 
> I didn't even bother to mention some of the other advantages: if you
> want to increase the community, you can offer an infinite number RSS
> feeds,  subscriptions to the site, the ability to build the community
> on the web (comments on the web are more open than a conversation on a
> mailing list).

You make a convincing argument for Wordpress.
 
> > While personally I do not have a significant personal preference, I
> > think this is something we should definitely spend time discussing since
> > it will be hard to turn around.  Making rash decisions based upon the
> > time it takes to set up is counter productive.
> >
> 
> It's not hard to turn around at all. I can make a static copy of a
> WordPress site in minutes. (it's called wget).
> WordPress also supports usable export of all it's data.

This defeats the point of having a static site in the first place.

-- 
Robert Leverington
http://rhl.me.uk/

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