Re: swing eighths in tempo marking

[Richard Shann]

On Wed, 2023-02-22 at 15:40 -0800, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> thanks for the direction and that markup!
> 
> After fiddling with the spacing a bit, I'd still like to make it a
> bit larger 
> and a bit higher above the staff.
> 
> I thought I could 'drag' it around in Denemo Print View, but that
> doesn't work 
> at all for me. 

I just tried dragging that in the Print View and it worked - the output
LilyPond syntax I ended up with (in the LilyPond view) was:

 <>-\tweak #'extra-offset #'(-6.71 . 4.54) ^\markup\scale #'(1 .
1)\column{\line{ \hspace #16 ┌  \hspace #2  \italic {3} \hspace #2  ┐
}\line{\bold "Swing it!" { \note {8} #UP } { \note {8} #UP } = { \note
{4} #UP } \hspace #2 {
\note {8} #UP }}


(this is Joe's bit of markup, dragged in the Print View).

If you can't do this dragging in the Print View the most likely
explanation is that you are using a version of Denemo built with Evince
instead of Atril - you can tell whether this is so as follows:
If built with Atril the piece will start to play if you click on a
note-head in the Print View (that is, point-and-click is working).
If built with Evince, nothing happens (no hand cursor appears).
If you *do* have point-and-click working (i.e. the Denemo Cursor moves
when you click on objects in the Print View) then ask again here (or
see the demo videos).

As you are LilyPond-literate you have the opportunity to create tweaks
by taking the syntax you have, putting it into a MWE(*) and asking on
LilyPond user mailing list how to tweak the result (in this case

Richard
(*) MWE is lilypond-speak for "Minimal Working Example" - in this case
just a \score{} with a note and the markup before it.
In this case
\score {
    { 
      %<>-\tweak #'extra-offset #'(-6.71 . 4.54) 
      ^\markup\scale #'(1 . 1)\column{\line{ \hspace #16 ┌  \hspace #2  \italic 
{3} \hspace #2  ┐
            }\line{\bold "Swing it!" { \note {8} #UP } { \note {8} #UP } = { 
\note {4} #UP } \hspace #2 {
            \note {8} #UP }}
            } c''
    }
 }
Where the tweak to the position is commented out, but is possibly what would 
have been suggested by the ever-helpful lilypond user list.
> 
> I also looked through the lilypond documentation and I couldn't find
> these 
> changes.
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 2:37:26 PM PST Joe wrote:
> > 12/8 is what you end up with. It is just very fiddly adding the
> > quaver,
> > semiquaver pairs. Best wishes
> > Joe
> > 
> > 
> > Joe
> > 
> > 
> > On 22 Feb 2023 22:26, jim <jim@well.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > how about using 12/8 ?
> > 
> > 
> > On 2/22/23 14:21, Joe Wilkinson wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Donald,
> > My (or rather Richard's) solution is shown below.
> > Multiline text and Music with text:
> >  \hspace #16 ┌  \hspace #2  \italic {3} \hspace #2  ┐
> > ¶\bold "Swing it!" { \note {8} #UP } { \note {8} #UP } = { \note
> > {4} #UP }
> > \hspace #2 { \note {8} #UP }
> > 
> > Best wishes
> > Joe Wilkinson
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 22/02/2023 19:23, Donald J. Stewart wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > I'd like to set something similar to 'eighth note = triplet'
> > (attached
> > tempo marking)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I see 'Beat Change' under Directives -> Markings -> Tempi and
> > Metronome
> > marks
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > But for some reason I get an 'unable to typeset' warning when I
> > attempt to
> > use this.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I'm sure there's a simple solution that I'm just overlooking...
> > 
> > 
> > (I also inadvertently sent this message to the lilypond-usr group -
> > - of
> > which I'm not a subscriber, evidently)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _____________________________________________
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