Re: [Denemo-devel] The staff indentation and the layout block.

[Richard Shann]

On Fri, 2009-04-03 at 11:14 +0200, Nils Gey wrote:
> This is all very good news because it makes the lilypond output flexible from 
> within Denemo.
> 
> But its still the question how do deliever all this options to a beginner or 
> not-ly-person AND integrate this with the current,

>  string-based system.

This is what I am working on. I hoping to drop the hard-coded support
for titles etc with something as easy to use but customizable. The
interface *could* look just the same, but there would be a uniform
mechanism underneath it. Migrating to this is quite hard, I don't want
Denemo to go backwards.


> 
> So just clickable dialogs/a list of options are not good enough because they 
> don't fit in the system and could easily create a mess with denemo-cirectives 
> created by the user and by a hypothetical denemo-list overwriting each other.
> 
I agree.
> I can think of a a menu which could be found in the texteditor-window for the 
> directives which is one-way ("fire and forget"). All it does would be 
> inserting strings to the textwindow, maybe with a describing comment. From 
> this point the user is responsible.
> So it fits with the current system. 
That would require the user not to be put-off by sight of the lilypond
text.

> 
> Think of it as an advanced online help showing up only in the right context 
> and with automatic copy and paste.
That is a nice idea, but I think we need to handle this in the GUI, with
the user attaching things (like titles) to the whole score (book) and/or
to the movements and so on either by mouse (with some graphical item
representing the whole score  and another the movements etc) or by
navigation through menus, with finally the possibility of assigning
keypresses - Shift-Ctrl-T score title, Shift-T movement title ...

I know I said this would take a couple of months. That is still true :-)

Richard

> 
> If its in an easy format (like xml) I could add all these options and 
> descriptions. The goal would be to easily choose&insert these 
> global/movement-layout options.
> 
> Nils 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 03 Apr 2009 07:41:00 +0100
> Richard Shann <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> > I have been looking into the \header{}, \paper{} and \layout{} blocks
> > and their meaning in LilyPond, with a view to completing the set of
> > DenemoDirectives so that you can easily customize the LilyPond output
> > from scripts. I've come across the fact that with the present Denemo
> > code you can change the indent of the first staff of a piece, which Nils
> > was asking about recently:
> > 
> > \layout {indent = 0.0}
> > 
> > is the magic needed to get rid of it altogether, and it can be put in
> > the Movements->Change Properties->lilypond_before field. I think it then
> > applies to *all* the movements in the piece; I think that if instead the
> > fragment is placed inside a scoreblock it applies only to the one
> > movement.
> > My plan is to replace the lilypond_before etc fields with
> > DenemoDirectives.
> > 
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > 
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