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Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3
From: |
Andreas Kuckartz |
Subject: |
Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3 |
Date: |
15 Nov 2013 18:37:43 +0100 |
hellekin:
> On 11/15/2013 01:49 PM, Andreas Kuckartz wrote:
>
>> A chicken-and-egg or bootstrapping problem. It obviously is not
>> trivial to solve. And it includes the operating system.
>
> *** I guess you can use plural here: operating systems, since
> phones are now (ahaha) known to run another chip-borne, proprietary
> operating system that accesses to any peripheral from USB to GPS.
Plural, yes. There are at least two operating systems in a modern
mobile phone: The "main" one such as Android or CyanogenMod and the
one on the SIM card. (In a support phone call with my mobile service
provider the support person informed me that they would "restart your
card" in a few minutes. The problem then disappeared.)
> A simple approach to the bootstrapping problem is to ship software
> as part of the operating system.
But how do you know that the shipped operating system was not
compromised? Where is the trust anchor?
I have seen a mail on the Tails mailing list about how to ensure or
verify that the content of a USB memory stick with Tails was not
modified. That is non-trivial when the number of USB sticks is large.
Cheers,
Andreas
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, (continued)
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, Andreas Kuckartz, 2013/11/14
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, hellekin, 2013/11/14
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, carlo von lynX, 2013/11/14
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, Andreas Kuckartz, 2013/11/15
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, hellekin, 2013/11/15
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3,
Andreas Kuckartz <=
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, hellekin, 2013/11/15
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, carlo von lynX, 2013/11/15
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, Andreas Kuckartz, 2013/11/15
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, hellekin, 2013/11/15
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, carlo von lynX, 2013/11/15
- Re: [GNU/consensus] [SocialSwarm-D] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, hellekin, 2013/11/15
- Re: [GNU/consensus] [SocialSwarm-D] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, carlo von lynX, 2013/11/16
- Re: [GNU/consensus] [SocialSwarm-D] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, Andreas Kuckartz, 2013/11/17
- Re: [GNU/consensus] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, Andreas Kuckartz, 2013/11/17
- Re: [GNU/consensus] [SocialSwarm-D] Map of Projects / Sessions at 30C3, Melvin Carvalho, 2013/11/17