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Re: Whither windows-msvc
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Zack Weinberg |
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Re: Whither windows-msvc |
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Tue, 19 Sep 2023 17:58:02 -0400 |
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On Mon, Sep 18, 2023, at 8:02 PM, Po Lu wrote:
> linux-musl is so named because there is no canonical name for a
> Musl-based Linux system. The "musl" represents "musl-based operating
> system", not merely the libc itself. Ditto for ulibc.
I'm gonna push back real hard on this specific aspect of what you are saying.
The terminology used by config.* was laid down at a time when it was extremely
unusual for the kernel, the C library, the C compiler, and the base set of "
user space" system software to be developed by four (or more!) independent
organizations. It is now, IMHO, more appropriate to think of $host_os (the
shell variable set by AC_CANONICAL_HOST) as specifying the part of the ABI that
*isn't* defined by the ISA. (Ignoring historical inconsistencies about whether
to specify ABI-relevant ISA variants in $xxx_cpu or $xxx_os.)
In particular, I claim that it is correct to use "linux-musl" to describe *any*
system built on top of the Linux kernel and musl libc, and similarly
"linux-gnu" to describe any system built on top of the Linux kernel and GNU
libc, regardless of what other software is included.
In general, I claim that components of a complete system that do not affect its
C ABI should not be considered *at all* in defining its canonical system name.
zw
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