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Re: Stand-alone Info and info-mode inconsistency: end of buffer behavior
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Arsen Arsenović |
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Re: Stand-alone Info and info-mode inconsistency: end of buffer behavior |
Date: |
Sat, 07 Jan 2023 22:51:55 +0100 |
Hi Gavin,
Gavin Smith <gavinsmith0123@gmail.com> writes:
> This can be configured using the scroll-behaviour and cursor-motion-scrolls
> variables in .infokey (see Info node (info-stnd)Variables).
>
> The info-stnd manual starts,
>
> You can read through the rest of this manual by typing <SPC> and <DEL>
> (or <Space> and <Backspace>)
>
> I doubt would help to stop this from working and leave the user stuck
> on the Top node.
>
> It was likely made to act this way on the past based on user feedback
> and I doubt it is warranted to make such a change now.
As Eli noted, I was referring to C-n and the arrow keys (the latter of
which fresh users are highly likely to try, I think).
>> However, I think this is a good thing. Flipping between pages
>> accidentally like this can and does confuse folk who are unfamiliar with
>> how nodes work.
>>
>> I feel as though the standalone info viewer is one of the most important
>> things a new GNU user would run into, and something they would run into
>> quite soon, due to it being referenced in all help2man'd manuals, and as
>> such, I feel like it's important to get an experience as close as
>> possible to what the person completely new to GNU would expect.
>
> Yes, I agree. It seems that many people have found info difficult
> to use, although running "info info", or using the H or h keys
> (advertised in the welcome message) seems sufficient to get users
> started.
Indeed - missing the welcome message seems a common phenomena (I tested
this on a few folk around me, all of whom missed it), which is quite
strange...
I'd like to redirect this discussion to Alex' thread on help-texinfo,
though. I hope we can collect some constructive criticism.
Thanks, have a great evening.
--
Arsen Arsenović
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- Stand-alone Info and info-mode inconsistency: end of buffer behavior, Arsen Arsenović, 2023/01/06
- Re: Stand-alone Info and info-mode inconsistency: end of buffer behavior, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/01/06
- Re: Stand-alone Info and info-mode inconsistency: end of buffer behavior, Arsen Arsenović, 2023/01/06
- Re: Stand-alone Info and info-mode inconsistency: end of buffer behavior, Gavin Smith, 2023/01/06
- Re: Stand-alone Info and info-mode inconsistency: end of buffer behavior, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/01/07
- Re: Stand-alone Info and info-mode inconsistency: end of buffer behavior,
Arsen Arsenović <=
- Re: Stand-alone Info and info-mode inconsistency: end of buffer behavior, Gavin Smith, 2023/01/10
- Re: Stand-alone Info and info-mode inconsistency: end of buffer behavior, Arsen Arsenović, 2023/01/11