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Re: epub init file, and questions


From: Gavin Smith
Subject: Re: epub init file, and questions
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2021 21:43:20 +0000
User-agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28)

On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 12:18:18PM -0800, Per Bothner wrote:
> On 12/25/21 22:48, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> Your comments are all on-point, but I'll just add a few notes.
> 
> > > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2021 11:44:34 -0800
> > > From: Per Bothner <per@bothner.com>
> 
> > > Note that using eww-mode running in a terminal displays texi2any-generated
> > > html work pretty decently, so that could potentially replace the
> > > standalone info program, once we have an html-supporting info mode.
> > 
> > Two issues with this:
> >
> >    . the stand-alone Info reader is a much leaner program than Emacs
> 
> Who cares? On modern computers, Emacs is relatively lean, and almost
> everyone who would use 'info' is likely to have Emacs installed.
> Using an emacs-server of course helps.

I care.  I have Emacs installed but don't habitually use it.  "info"
starts up pretty much instantaneously (in fact, it is much quicker
than "man" - "man" always seems to take about half a second to
load regardless of how many times you run it, whereas info has no
noticeable delay the second time you run it).  I just ran "emacs"
at the command line to see how long that took to start up, and I
counted 31 seconds for it to load up.

$ emacs --version
GNU Emacs 28.0.50
Copyright (C) 2020 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GNU Emacs comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
You may redistribute copies of GNU Emacs
under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
For more information about these matters, see the file named COPYING.

That version check alone took about 6 seconds to print (faster
subsequent times due to disk accesses being cached I assume).

Of course using emacs-server would make it faster, but I'm not going
to do that just for the sake of using Info mode.  I also don't want
the confusion and complication of using Emacs.

Fact is, if you mandate using Emacs to access Texinfo documentation, a
lot of people just wouldn't bother.  I think using Emacs as an Info
replacement is just a non-starter.



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