Re: Incorrect bar line with voltas, \repeatTie and lyrics

[Ole V. Villumsen]

Thanks, Simon, for your constructive contribution in this situation.

It’s interesting that you’ve been able to reduce the example that I thought 
minimal so much further. I still don’t see how I would have been able to 
without an unreasonably great effort.

Yes, I might have made other requests, such as I have done before. I believe 
that my suggestion for a number of paragraphs for the NR once was adopted with 
minimal changes. As I think I said, given the attitude with which I was met in 
this particular case I am not going to this time.

Thanks for trying, but likely I will not be able to make my next good-faith bug 
report more constructive. I will consider whether I can, of course.

Happy New Year.

Ole

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On Monday, December 30th, 2024 at 17:24, Simon Albrecht 
<simon.albrecht@mail.de> wrote:

> Hi Ole,
> 
> it’s OK that you’re dissatisfied with the way LilyPond handles this
> example, but we do not have the resources or policy to turn every such
> example coming to the bug list into a constructive issue report ourselves.
> 
> For one thing, your example is not actually minimal. You are convinced
> that you follow the guidelines, but the guidelines include the fact that
> anything but “tiny examples” in the technical sense cannot be processed
> on the bug list. See below for a much slimmer version. The \repeatTie
> doesn’t have anything to do with the issue, neither do the pitches
> (though that’s a minor point) or the way you create contexts.
> 
> Ultimately, though, the answer is still: LilyPond doesn’t support using
> \alternative for the lyrics in a case like this.
> 
> Given your response to Timothy, you might have made one or more of the
> following requests:
> – LilyPond should support using \alternative in the lyrics in a scenario
> like this.
> – LilyPond should give a more helpful error message/warning.
> – The documentation should be different.
> 
> In the latter case, the question is: how exactly do you think the
> documentation is misleading now and how should we improve it? I think
> it’s made pretty clear that \alternative in lyrics should (currently)
> never be used outside of the simplest situations.
> 
> In the first case, that’s not a bug, that’s a missing feature, whose
> scope and implementation would be difficult to determine.
> 
> I hope that leads to a better understanding of how to make your request
> constructive to begin with.
> 
> Best, Simon
> 
> %%%%%%
> \version "2.24.4"
> \repeat volta 2 {
> 1~ |
> \alternative {
> \volta 1 { 2 2 | }
> \volta 2 { 2 2 | }
> }
> }
> \addlyrics {
> \repeat volta 2 {
> m
> \alternative {
> \volta 1 { n }
> \volta 2 { _ o }
> }
> }
> }
> %%%%%%%