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Re: [bug-inetutils] "echo" dgram service in *inetd and UDP packets with

From: Alfred M. Szmidt
Subject: Re: [bug-inetutils] "echo" dgram service in *inetd and UDP packets with source port 7
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 05:19:02 -0500

   > The echo protocol is a debugging and measurement tool, it is not
   > supposed to be used for security sensetive tools.  It would also
   > be a violation of RFC 862 to change the behaviour in this format,
   > where it is allowed to induce this kinda of a loop.

   Yes, but I don't think RFC conformance is good enough a reason to
   not fix a vulnerability.

That is not how one implements network protocols, or portable
implementations of clients and servers.  The RFCs are there for a
reason, they document what is currently used.

Though, after thinking, I am partially keen to breaking the protocol
in a documented fashion, and submitting new RFCs for these protocols.
It would make things more useful, and the changes simply mean that a
very special case stops working.

Would you like to submit a patch to amend these issues?  That in
itself would be useful for those who do want to explicitly break the
protocol for whatever reason.

   At least nowadays, those services are not enabled by default at
   least in the opensource implementations. 

The GNU network utilities are a free software implementation of many
network protocols, and have nothing to do with open source.  Please do
not call our project for an open source project.

   I think a good step further would be to clearly document that
   enabling those services have security implications and that they
   should not be exposed to the internet.

This is a good idea, would you like to submit a piece of text for the

   I'd also argue that unix.stackexchange.com have better
   visibility that the bug-inetutils archives. And redirecting
   question askers to mailing lists is not how those sites work.

The only place to talk about these issues in inetutils is here, nobody
of the maintainers reads this web site.

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