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Re: uname -s and naming confusion
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Robert Millan |
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Re: uname -s and naming confusion |
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Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:24:59 +0100 |
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On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 03:36:02PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Tom Hart <hartte13@BrandonU.CA> writes:
>
> >
> > The GNU project uses the term "operating system" to refer to the
> > complete *usable* system, ie. GNU, GNU/Hurd, GNU/Linux, and "kernel"
> > to refer to the kernel, ie. Linux, Hurd/Mach, Hurd/L4, etc., whereas
> > the BSD people say "operating system == kernel".
>
> Yes. So what I'm saying is "Let's not add to the confusion.
For what i can see, the confusion consists in that many people think
the Hurd is an operating system whereas GNU is a collection of software
that just happens to work well on Un*x.
> Let's at
> least try and keep all the variants of the GNU system compatible in
> their use of terminology."
GNU/Linux has a bug that makes it print the kernel name when asked
for the operating system name. That bug is particularly annoying because
it cannot be fixed without causing major breakage. As a consequence, guname
inherited wrong terminology to workaround the first bug.
This bug is specific to GNU/Linux. GNU prints "GNU", and GNU/FreeBSD, for
example, will print "GNU/FreeBSD" in the OS name. Do you think the GNU
system and the rest of its variants should be compatible with that bug or that
misuse of terminology?
--
Robert Millan
"5 years from now everyone will be running
free GNU on their 200 MIPS, 64M SPARCstation-5"
Andrew S. Tanenbaum, 30 Jan 1992
- Re: uname -s, (continued)
- Re: uname -s, Thomas Bushnell, BSG, 2002/10/23
- Re: uname -s, Robert Millan, 2002/10/24
- Re: uname -s, Thomas Bushnell, BSG, 2002/10/24
- Re: uname -s, Robert Millan, 2002/10/24
- Re: uname -s, Thomas Bushnell, BSG, 2002/10/25
- Re: uname -s and naming confusion, Tom Hart, 2002/10/25
- Re: uname -s and naming confusion, Thomas Bushnell, BSG, 2002/10/25
- Re: uname -s and naming confusion,
Robert Millan <=
- Re: uname -s and naming confusion, Tom Hart, 2002/10/29
- Re: uname -s and naming confusion, Jeff Bailey, 2002/10/29
- Re: uname -s and naming confusion, Robert Millan, 2002/10/31
- Re: uname -s and naming confusion, Tom Hart, 2002/10/31
Re: uname -s, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2002/10/24
Re: uname -s, Jon Mason, 2002/10/24