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bug#72686: Impossible to remove all offload machines


From: Ian Eure
Subject: bug#72686: Impossible to remove all offload machines
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2024 20:53:22 -0700
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Hi Maxim,

Ian Eure <ian@retrospec.tv> writes:

Hi Maxim,

Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer@gmail.com> writes:

Hi Ian,

Ian Eure <ian@retrospec.tv> writes:

Ran into this issue last week.  If you:

- Configure some offload build machines in your operating-system
 configuration.
- Reconfigure your system.
- Remove all offload build machines.
- Reconfigure your system again.

...then various guix operations will still try to connect to
offload
machines, even if you reboot the affected client.

This is caused by a bug in the `guix-activation' procedure:

  ;; ... and /etc/guix/machines.scm.
  #$(if (null? (guix-configuration-build-machines config))
        #~#f
        (guix-machines-files-installation
         #~(list #$@(guix-configuration-build-machines
          config))))

If there are no build machines defined in the configuration, no operation is performed (#f is returned), which leaves the previous
generation’s /etc/guix/machines.scm in place.

The same issue appears to affect channels:

  ;; ... and /etc/guix/channels.scm...
  #$(and channels (install-channels-file channels))

Interesting!

I’d be happy to take a stab at fixing this, but I’m not certain
what
direction to go, or how much to refactor to get there. Should the channels/machines files be removed (ignoring errors if they don’t
exist)?  Should empty files be installed?  Should that happen
inline
in `guix-activation', or in another procedure? Should the filenames
be
extracted to %variables to avoid duplicating between the two places
they’ll be used?

If someone would like to provide answered, I would contribute a
patch.

I guess the simplest would be to attempt to remove the files when
there
are no offload machines or channels, in this already existing
activation
procedure.  Extracting the file names to %variables sounds
preferable
yes, if there's a logical place to store them that is easily shared.


As I was putting together a patch for this, I realized there’s a
problem: if a user is *manually* managing either
/etc/guix/machines.scm or channels.scm, these files would be deleted, which likely isn’t what they want. The current code lets users choose to manage these files manually or declaritively, and there’s no way to
know if the files on disk are the result of a previous system
generation or a user’s creation. Since the channel management is a relatively new feature, I suspect there are quite a few folks with manually-managed channels that this would negatively impact. I know there was some disruption just moving to declaritive management of
channels (but I can’t find the thread/s at the moment).

I don’t see an elegant technical solution to this. I think the best option is probably to say that those files should *always* be managed through operating-system, and put a fat warning in the channel news to
update your config if they’re still handled manually.

The only other option I can see would be to keep the existing
filenames for user configuration, and declaritively manage different files -- like declaritive-channels.scm. This comes with its own set
of problems, like needing to update the Guix daemon to read and
combine multiple files; and the inability to know whether a given `channels.scm' is declaritively- or manually-managed means a bumpy upgrade path (ex. should this preexisting channels.scm file be left
as-is, or renamed to the new name?)

I’m inclined to go with the fat-warning option, but am also thinking
this likely needs some guix-devel discussion.

What do you think?


Disregard this, I continued thinking after sending the email (as one does) and realized that any managed file will be a link into the store -- so if the system is reconfigured with no build-machines or channels *and* the corresponding file is a store link, it should be removed; otherwise, it should remain untouched. I can work with this.

Thanks,

 — Ian





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