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bug#18520: string ports should not have an encoding
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Ludovic Courtès |
Subject: |
bug#18520: string ports should not have an encoding |
Date: |
Mon, 22 Sep 2014 14:21:21 +0200 |
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I see my reply failed to address some of the points raised.
David Kastrup <address@hidden> skribis:
> Guile-2.2 does not consult %default-port-encoding but uses UTF-8
> consistently (I guess, overriding set-port-encoding! will again change
> that).
>
> That still is not satisfactory. For example, using ftell on the input
> port will not report the string index of the string connected to the
> string port but rather a byte index into a UTF-8 encoded version of the
> string. This is a number that has nothing to do with the original
> string and cannot be used for correlating string and port.
Right.
> Ports fundamentally deliver characters, and so reading and writing from
> a string source/sink should not involve _any_ coding system.
>
> Files fundamentally deliver bytes, a conversion is required. The same
> would be the case when opening a port on a _bytevector_. Here an
> encoding would make equally make sense, and ftell/fseek offsets would
> naturally be in bytes. But a port on a string delivers and consumes
> characters. Any conversion, even a fixed UTF-8 conversion, will destroy
> the predictable nature of with-output-to-string and
> with-input-from-string and the respective uses of string ports.
Guile ports can be mixed textual/binary (unlike R6 ports, which are
either textual or binary.) Thus, they fundamentally deliver bytes,
possibly with a textual conversion.
Although the manual isn’t clear about it, ‘ftell’, when available,
returns a position in bytes. The situation for string ports here is
comparable to that of other ports used for textual I/O.
Do you have a situation where you were relying on 1.8’s behavior in that
regard? Could we see whether this can be solved differently?
Thanks,
Ludo’.
- bug#18520: string ports should not have an encoding, David Kastrup, 2014/09/21
- bug#18520: string ports should not have an encoding, Ludovic Courtès, 2014/09/22
- bug#18520: string ports should not have an encoding,
Ludovic Courtès <=
- bug#18520: string ports should not have an encoding, David Kastrup, 2014/09/22
- bug#18520: string ports should not have an encoding, Ludovic Courtès, 2014/09/22
- bug#18520: string ports should not have an encoding, David Kastrup, 2014/09/22
- bug#18520: string ports should not have an encoding, Ludovic Courtès, 2014/09/22
- bug#18520: string ports should not have an encoding, David Kastrup, 2014/09/22
- bug#18520: string ports should not have an encoding, Ludovic Courtès, 2014/09/23
- bug#18520: string ports should not have an encoding, David Kastrup, 2014/09/23
- bug#18520: string ports should not have an encoding, Ludovic Courtès, 2014/09/23
- bug#18520: string ports should not have an encoding, David Kastrup, 2014/09/23
- bug#18520: string ports should not have an encoding, Ludovic Courtès, 2014/09/23