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RE: [Bug-gnubg] Moving Pieces and Dice Throws


From: Ian Shaw
Subject: RE: [Bug-gnubg] Moving Pieces and Dice Throws
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:25:42 +0100

Paul is right that the piece selection is a little off.

I've found that clicking on the left-hand edge of the chequer does not
work, whereas clicking on the right side does.

The dead spot is always the  left edge, whether you are the top or
bottom player, or playing anti-clockwise or clockwise, or playing
full-screen or in a window.

Paul, look at Settings, Options, Dice, and check that Dice Manipulation
is not enabled. I've always used Mersenne Twister without problems but
you can choose from a number of dice generators.  Failing that, I
respectfully suggest that your observations exhibit the well-known bias
to remember the bad sequences, or that your sample size is likely too
small to carry much statistical weight. It may not convince you, but
I'll state it anyway: many world class players use gnubg and trust that
it's dice are fair.

Regards,
Ian 


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Jonathan Kinsey
        Sent: 30 March 2010 16:11
        To: address@hidden
        Cc: address@hidden
        Subject: Re: [Bug-gnubg] Moving Pieces and Dice Throws
        
        
        Hi Paul,
        
        Here's a couple of suggestions to try:
        
        For piece selection, try making the window bigger, removing the
panels on the
        right or trying the full screen mode.
        
        To convince yourself gnubg isn't cheating select the manual dice
option and roll
        the dice rolls yourself (for both sides).
        
        Jon
        
        On 30/03/2010 15:53, Paul Thornett wrote:
        > I've been playing with GNU Backgammon for a couple of weeks
now, and
        > have 2 comments to make:
        > - It's a little irritating that I have to position my mouse
fairly
        > carefully before clicking to move a piece. I'd have thought
you could
        > have given a bit more leeway, so that clicking on the side of
the target
        > would work too.
        > - I find your claims about the fairness of the dice-throwing
quite
        > ludicrous!
        > * Over and over again, when GNUB needs a double, that's what
he/she throws
        > * I have stayed on the bar 5 consecutive times on a 2-point
board once,
        > and 4 consecutive times 4 times, whereas when GNUB stays on
the bar, it
        > rarely does much damage
        > * In bear-off situations where I'm around 20 points ahead in a
65-80
        > pip count, I have lost nine times - well against the odds
        > * In bear-off situations, I frequentlyt thow 2-1, 3-1 or 1-1,
wherea
        > GNUB manges this feat extremely rarely
        > 
        > I realize these comments are all very unscientific, but I'm
sure you
        > don't want to be burdened with dozens of positions and throws.
And even
        > many examples would prove nothing, but simply show a trend
that you
        > could dismisss. I'm simply saying that my observations lead me
to
        > believe that there's something amiss with the programming of
your dice
        > throws.
        > 
        > Regards,
        > 
        > Paul Thornett
        > 
        > 
        > 
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