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From: Adi Kadmon
Subject: [Bug-gnubg] Fwd: The results of your email commands
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:49:01 +0200



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From: <address@hidden>
Date: Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Subject: The results of your email commands
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- Unprocessed:
   I'd like to correct a statement I made several months ago on this matter. It
   then appeared to me (and I was certainly not one of the first to note it)
   that 2-ply cube decision evaluations were better than those of 3-ply -
   according to rollouts.
   Now, at any rate with GNU 4/2009 version, on the basis of systematic
   checking of very many positions (with the help of 0-ply-RO, 1-ply-RO,
   2-world class-ply-RO and 2-supremo-ply-RO), I think otherwise: 2-ply cube
   decision evalutaions are definitely better than 3-ply's in openning
   positions and relatively simple middle-game positions. (3-ply is too
   "daring" in declaring Doubles, Passes and Too Goods.) But as the game
   prgresses or becomes more complicated, the tendency lessens and finally
   turns around: 3-ply is superior particularly in positions where the side
   trailing in the race nevertheless has the advantage; in those endings where
   one side primes or closes out the other with most of the other's checkers
   already borne out; and more types of complicated middle-game or endgame.
   (There, 2-ply is too "caucious-conservative" in declaring Doubles, Passes
   and Too Goods).
   I should point out that a similar state of things seems to prevail (though
   it was not as systematically checked) comparing in general odd-ply versus
   even-ply cube decision evalutaions.

- Ignored:
   -- Adi

- Done.



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Adi Kadmon <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden, address@hidden
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 11:31:44 +0200
Subject: Cube decisions - 3-ply versus 2-ply
Hello all,
 
I'd like to correct a statement I made several months ago on this matter. It then appeared to me (and I was certainly not one of the first to note it) that 2-ply cube decision evaluations were better than those of 3-ply - according to rollouts.
 
Now, at any rate with GNU 4/2009 version, on the basis of systematic checking of very many positions (with the help of 0-ply-RO, 1-ply-RO, 2-world class-ply-RO and 2-supremo-ply-RO), I think otherwise: 2-ply cube decision evalutaions are definitely better than 3-ply's in openning positions and relatively simple middle-game positions. (3-ply is too "daring" in declaring Doubles, Passes and Too Goods.) But as the game prgresses or becomes more complicated, the tendency lessens and finally turns around: 3-ply is superior particularly in positions where the side trailing in the race nevertheless has the advantage; in those endings where one side primes or closes out the other with most of the other's checkers already borne out; and more types of complicated middle-game or endgame. (There, 2-ply is too "caucious-conservative" in declaring Doubles, Passes and Too Goods).
 
I should point out that a similar state of things seems to prevail (though it was not as systematically checked) comparing in general odd-ply versus even-ply cube decision evalutaions.
 
-- Adi



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