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Re: Down with smcup!
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Thomas Dickey |
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Re: Down with smcup! |
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3 Apr 2002 16:04:45 GMT |
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tin/1.4.4-20000803 ("Vet for the Insane") (UNIX) (SunOS/5.5.1 (sun4m)) |
Thomas Mellman <address@hidden> wrote:
>> (I can guess about more than one possibility).
see - it helps to explain (this is not one of the ones I was considering ;-)
> Hmmm. Let's see. Some people think it's cool that when you leave a curses
> program, everything that was in their window disappears. This is so cool that
> over the years, it has taken over more and more. It's the Sun way. I guess
> it came - at some point - from Berkeley.
Perhaps (it's been so long that I don't recall).
A feature of xterm which was not well-supported in The Other System
since terminfo-based systems didn't support it.
> Unfortunately, other people don't like it. Like me. When I look at a
> manpage,
> for example, I leave the pager and expect to be able to see the command I just
> looked up.
There're pros/cons. With XFree86 xterm you can always peek at the alternate
screen. I usually have it turned off, but roughly half of the users prefer
it.
> I've gotten used to having a private TERMINFO entry, by infocmp()ing the
> standard one and removing smcup/rmcup. But in the latest cygwin software
> (which is - otherwise - incredibly wonderful) when I remove the ..cup
> attributes,
> less() and vi() start making all kinds of noise that my terminal emulation is
> broken.
Reading less' source, I don't see where it would complain.
For "vi", I suppose it may depend on the implementation.
So again - more information is needed to see what you're complaining about.
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Re: Down with smcup!, DJ Delorie, 2002/04/03