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bug#61337: 29.0.60; Setting frame-title-format makes Emacs to steal focu
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
bug#61337: 29.0.60; Setting frame-title-format makes Emacs to steal focus |
Date: |
Fri, 10 Feb 2023 09:15:16 +0200 |
> From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
> Cc: Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es>, 61337@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2023 10:15:48 +0800
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > But I guess we will need to agree to disagree here.
>
> I think you are both arguing over a misunderstanding.
I don't see a misunderstanding between us.
> Oscar's problem is that KWin focuses Emacs when it really should not,
> when Emacs has done nothing to ask for the focus, and is in fact
> iconified in a different desktop.
I understand that. I'm just saying that an Emacs user, even a user
such as myself, who knows one or two things about Emacs, has no way of
knowing whether, while the user was away of working with a desktop,
something happened that caused Emacs or WM to switch focus to the
Emacs's window on that desktop. The events that can cause this on a
modern system are a legion, and can be caused both by what Emacs does
in the background and by the system for any number of valid reasons.
Therefore, the first thing I, as a user, do when I want to resume my
work, is to find out which window has the input focus; I do NOT rely
on some prior knowledge of where I think the focus should be.
> And even worse, that focus is set in a way that cannot easily be
> perceived by the user.
If the WM doesn't provide good ways for the user to tell which window
has input focus, not even as a user customization, that WM is buggy
and should be fixed. But that is definitely not a problem for us to
solve.
- bug#61337: 29.0.60; Setting frame-title-format makes Emacs to steal focus, (continued)
- bug#61337: 29.0.60; Setting frame-title-format makes Emacs to steal focus, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/02/09
- bug#61337: 29.0.60; Setting frame-title-format makes Emacs to steal focus, Po Lu, 2023/02/09
- bug#61337: 29.0.60; Setting frame-title-format makes Emacs to steal focus, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/02/09
- bug#61337: 29.0.60; Setting frame-title-format makes Emacs to steal focus, Po Lu, 2023/02/09
- bug#61337: 29.0.60; Setting frame-title-format makes Emacs to steal focus, Óscar Fuentes, 2023/02/09
- bug#61337: 29.0.60; Setting frame-title-format makes Emacs to steal focus, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/02/09
- bug#61337: 29.0.60; Setting frame-title-format makes Emacs to steal focus, Óscar Fuentes, 2023/02/09
- bug#61337: 29.0.60; Setting frame-title-format makes Emacs to steal focus, Eli Zaretskii, 2023/02/09
- bug#61337: 29.0.60; Setting frame-title-format makes Emacs to steal focus, Po Lu, 2023/02/09
- bug#61337: 29.0.60; Setting frame-title-format makes Emacs to steal focus, Óscar Fuentes, 2023/02/10
- bug#61337: 29.0.60; Setting frame-title-format makes Emacs to steal focus,
Eli Zaretskii <=
- bug#61337: 29.0.60; Setting frame-title-format makes Emacs to steal focus, Po Lu, 2023/02/09
- bug#61337: 29.0.60; Setting frame-title-format makes Emacs to steal focus, Óscar Fuentes, 2023/02/09
- bug#61337: 29.0.60; Setting frame-title-format makes Emacs to steal focus, Óscar Fuentes, 2023/02/13
- bug#61337: 29.0.60; Setting frame-title-format makes Emacs to steal focus, Po Lu, 2023/02/13