bug#38730: 27.0.50; tutorial start does not take into account the customization notice

[Stefan Kangas]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Jean-Christophe Helary <jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org>
>> Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2019 18:37:57 +0900
>>
>> When starting the Tutorial in an emacs session that has modified
>> keybindings, an information notice is displayed in red/bold characters at 
>> the top of the screen.
>>
>> That notice pushes the first step of the tutorial to below the visible space
>> of the frame. The user thus cannot see the first step and has to manually
>> scroll down to see it, which defeats the purpose of that first step where the
>> user learns to use C-v to move one screenful down...
>
> I'm not sure what use case is described here.  If keybindings have
> been modified, we probably aren't talking about a complete newcomer to
> Emacs, so at least simple cursor motion should already be a skill
> he/she already acquired, right?  He/she might already know to scroll
> with PgDn or the mouse wheel, right?
>
> OTOH, in a customized session, we can reasonably expect to see a
> window that is larger than the default shown by "emacs -Q", and maybe
> then the beginning of the tutorial will still be visible?
>
> And if none of the above helps, then what kind of solution would you
> propose for such a situation?

I agree with Eli, and there has been no no further replies here within
35 weeks.  I'm therefore going to assume the above reply resolved the
problem and close this bug now.

If this conclusion is incorrect, please reply to this email (use "Reply
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Best regards,
Stefan Kangas