Re: [Bug-gne]Moderation & Server setup

[Tom Chance]

> For picures, do I put them inline, do I wrap the
> text? Do I put thumbs? An 
> article with a lot of photos or media might take
> forever to load.
> I was thinking rather to have a section at the
> bottom that shows a list of 
> media, like:
> 
> - Photograph of Adolf Hitler in Nurenberg, Germany,
> 1933. (39k)
> - Photograph of Joseph Stalin in Moscow, USSR, 1935.
> (25k)
> - Photograph of Japanese Emperor Hirohito, Tokyo,
> Japan, 1937 (33k)
> - Photograph of Sir Winston Churchill, London,
> England, 1940, (51k)
> 
> - Short speech by Adolf Hitler at Nurenberg, in
> 1933. (mp3 2.1mb)
> 
> - Video of Sir Winston Churchill and Her Majesty the
> Queen in 1939 (mpg, 
> 14.9mb)
> 
> That sort of thing.

That would be ok, but then with many articles it
really would be good to have articles mid text,
especially if they are important in an explanation of
something (like a scientific theory). I think that
putting something like <image></image> would suffice
on our side, and I'm sure people could get the hang of
putting those in.

Tom Chance


> 
> Chris Mahan
> 
> 
> >From: Tom Chance <address@hidden>
> >
> Looks good to me. A few pointers though:
> >
> >* The edit part... shouldn't the article, once
> edited,
> >be shown to the original author again before being
> >properly submitted? Otherwise the system is open to
> >abuse from the editors/helpers.
> >
> >* A summary field would be good at the bottom for
> >searching. When you search, it could return all the
> >results with a small summary of say no more than 50
> >words, so you could get an idea of the subject of
> the
> >article. Or it could be at the top of the article.
> So
> >you don't spend ages reading through them only to
> find
> >they're not looking at what you wanted (an article
> >could be called "Hitler's Rise To Power", but could
> be
> >more about his rising through the ranks of the Nazi
> >party than his consolidation of power in the early
> >1930s).
> >
> >* Some way of putting images in would also be good.
> >The solution Rob Scott and I came up with, which
> could
> >no doubt be improved, was to have a couple of
> "upload"
> >boxes in the form, and ask the author to write in
> some
> >sort of tag with an image name in, like
> ><image>canoe.jpg</image>, or even the full HTML
> code
> >for an image. The perl/php script could parse this
> and
> >easily format it all properly.
> >
> >
> >--- Christopher Mahan <address@hidden>
> wrote:
> > > Am working on a simple submission form, to
> generate
> > > xml.
> > >
> > > Please take a look at it ant let me know.
> > >
> > > http://www.christophermahan.com/gne/
> > >
> > > go to submission.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Imran Ghory" <address@hidden>
> > > >Reply-To: address@hidden
> > > >To: address@hidden
> > > >Subject: Re: [Bug-gne]Moderation & Server setup
> > > >Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 18:56:27 -0000
> > > >
> > > >On 18 Feb 2001, at 8:01, Tom Chance wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > Look we can't just let every article
> > > submitted
> > > > > > enter
> > > > > > > the resource, we've decided that
> already, so
> > > we
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > get binary bombs and adverts. The most
> open
> > > > > > moderation
> > > > > > > system proposed was mine and Rob's which
> is
> > > where
> > > > > > any
> > > > > > > article only needs a few "yes" votes to
> get
> > > in;
> > > > > > > there's no majority needed or anything
> > > similar...
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > > "reject" votes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's open to total abuse though, it be
> > > trivial to
> > > > > > bypass such a
> > > > > > checking system. And it will still rely on
> the
> > > owner
> > > > > > of the server not
> > > > > > wiping anything they don't like.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes it is if anybody could vote, but thats
> not
> > > the way
> > > > > it would work. Moderators would be people
> who
> > > have
> > > > > submitted a couple of articles, the people
> on
> > > this
> > > > > list, and/or anyone else we know is
> responsible
> > > and
> > > > > committed enough to this project that they
> > > wouldn't
> > > > > let adverts and other rubbish it.
> > > >
> > > >That would mean it would be trivial to become a
> > > moderator, anyone
> > > >can write a couple of dozen decent articles to
> "get
> > > in" and once in
> > > >they could abuse the system.
> > > >
> > > > > But it does mean
> > > > > there is bound to be enough people on at any
> on
> > > time
> > > > > to alllow anything in. If there's any yes/no
> > > voting,
> > > > > we're bound to start losing a lot of
> articles.
> > > >
> > > >If we have multiple servers then people can
> submit
> > > the article to a
> > > >server which they think is more likely to
> accept it
> > > and create a
> > > >more fair system, if an articles reject by
> every
> > > server then chances
> > > >are that the article doesn't deserve to be
> > > included. But at least
> > > >going down this route would prevent a
> moderation
> > > system being
> > > >abused.
> > > >
> > > > > > > Stick it on a computer and just leave
> the
> > > system
> > > > > > > automated; don't let somebody sneak
> through
> > > it
> > > > > > > deleting references.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Unless the system is physically secure
> (i.e in
> > > a
> > > > > > lead box under the
> > > > > > Atlantic), that's going to be impossible
> to
> > > do. Game
> > > > > > networking
> > > > > > programmers have been trying for years to
> find
> > > a
> > > > > > method of
> > > > > > ensuring data integerity on insecure
> > > computers.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure what you're getting at here.
> Nobody
> > > in
> > > > > GNE is going to start ripping articles out
> of
> > > any
> > > > > index, are they?
> > > >
> > > >Do you know that for sure ?
> > > >
> > > >We can't leave GNE to be vulnerable to being
> > > destroyed by a single
> > > >person, no matter who that person is.
> > > >
> > > > > And as to the rest of your system, I
> > > > > will wait until you or somebody else has
> > > actually made
> > > > > and tested it before I will reply.
> > > >
> > > >The style of distributed information has been
> used
> > > before by
> > > >Gopher, we know that it can be made to work.
> > > >
> > > >Imran
> > > >
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