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[Bug-gne]Moderation & Server setup


From: Tom Chance
Subject: [Bug-gne]Moderation & Server setup
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2001 08:01:09 -0800 (PST)

> > Look we can't just let every article submitted
> enter
> > the resource, we've decided that already, so we
> don't
> > get binary bombs and adverts. The most open
> moderation
> > system proposed was mine and Rob's which is where
> any
> > article only needs a few "yes" votes to get in;
> > there's no majority needed or anything similar...
> no
> > "reject" votes. 
> 
> That's open to total abuse though, it be trivial to
> bypass such a 
> checking system. And it will still rely on the owner
> of the server not 
> wiping anything they don't like.

Yes it is if anybody could vote, but thats not the way
it would work. Moderators would be people who have
submitted a couple of articles, the people on this
list, and/or anyone else we know is responsible and
committed enough to this project that they wouldn't
let adverts and other rubbish it. But it does mean
there is bound to be enough people on at any on time
to alllow anything in. If there's any yes/no voting,
we're bound to start losing a lot of articles.



> > > >Just so long as nobody
> > > > has control over that index (i.e. it just
> hosts a
> > > > reference to every article that is stored on
> some
> > > > GNE-related server) then it can remain
> completely
> > > > "free", and is easy to maintain.
> > > 
> > > And how would you propose to do that ?
> > 
> > Stick it on a computer and just leave the system
> > automated; don't let somebody sneak through it
> > deleting references.
> 
> Unless the system is physically secure (i.e in a
> lead box under the 
> Atlantic), that's going to be impossible to do. Game
> networking 
> programmers have been trying for years to find a
> method of 
> ensuring data integerity on insecure computers.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Nobody in
GNE is going to start ripping articles out of any
index, are they? And as to the rest of your system, I
will wait until you or somebody else has actually made
and tested it before I will reply. It's all posturing
really, we can't know how well any system will work
until its been tried by us, trying it with the sort of
structure and resources we will be using. Rob and I
are sort of making our system, though with almost no
resources and limited programming knowledg atm its a
bit hard to do!

What would be good is if people went off and actually
started making their system, or finding somebody who
could and ask them to make it, so we can see them all
in reality and not just say "you could do this"
without thinking of how you could do it (And I mean in
terms of machines, net connections, processing power,
the programming etc.).

Tom Chance

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