Re: [Bug-gne]the problem of illegal content vs. freedom

[Tom Chance]

No I'm not really saying limit the number of voters
too much. But I do think that any person who found the
site shouldn't be able to vote straight off otherwise
we could end up with lots of people emptying their
cache + cookies, changing IP and voting again to get
their advert into the resource. It would happen.

How do we magically get an international audience? At
the moment we just have people from western Europe and
the more developed areas of the Americas. Hardly an
unbiased community! As it develops, we're not likely
to get too many Chinese or Moroccans are we? Certainly
not compared to the number of western europeans! So if
we allow voting in the near future, it will inevitably
bring in unacceptable amounts of bias.

As for open-source projects, so what? They're
irrelevant in the context because intellectual and
political bias won't affect much how well you make a
utility in Perl will it? What is important is
progressing quickly with a common goal. But here in
GNE, preventing bias is paramount, and we all know
this will no doubt take longer than our lifetimes to
get close to completion.

Tom Chance 


--- Jean-Daniel Fekete <address@hidden>
wrote: > I am not sure to understand your point.
> Are you proposing to limit the number of voters?
> As for the bias, I can't see any way to totally
> remove it. Having an international audience limits
> the bias.
> 
> Thinking about control, I just realized all the free
> software and open source projects were basically
> managed by very
> few people who take decisions.  The projects are
> free but in control, just to maintain a high level
> of quality .
> Just a thought, nothing else.
> 
> Tom Chance wrote:
> 
> > > If GNE is setup to allow any contents and
> provide no
> > > way to remove harmful
> > > contents, it is out of control.
> > > I think we need to define some control.  Usenet
> has
> > > a simple voting
> > > mechanism to create new groups.  Anybody can
> vote
> > > and if there is more
> > > "yes" than "no", it passes.  Doing something as
> > > simple as that would add
> > > some control without (too much) bias because
> > > everybody can vote, not only
> > > Americans or Christians.
> >
> > That's really naive. Of course you'd get bias. To
> > start with, all the people using GNE would be
> computer
> > literate westerners. Then others who were of a
> > different disposition might be scared away
> thinking
> > its all one-sided. Any ability to block work will
> > always introduce a high level of bias. We can't go
> > blocking works. If we just had a "yes" vote, then
> > assuming the "moderators" were committed to a
> decent
> > resource, adverts and binary bombs etc. wouldn't
> get a
> > "yes" vote, so they wouldn't get in. Anything else
> > would be sure to get in because somebody would
> want to
> > vote for it. Moderators could just be people who
> are
> > on this list perhaps, and/or people who have
> submitted
> > and had accepted 3 or 4 articles, just to ensure
> they
> > are "committed" to the project.
> >
> > Tom Chance
> >
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