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Re: [Bug-gne]the problem of illegal content vs. freedom


From: Tom Chance
Subject: Re: [Bug-gne]the problem of illegal content vs. freedom
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:57:54 -0800 (PST)

Would putting up a "this is illegal in the following
countries" sign up make it that much more legal
though? Surely we could still get in a lot of trouble.
Then again so many worthy (and unworthy IMO) topics
have been banned globally that we have to allow them,
and the best we can do for now is to put up giant
disclaimers and think about using Freenet. Regardless
of the ins and outs of legality of linking, browsing,
hosting etc., we have to work out a practical solution
that won't compromise the ideology of freedom of
speech.

We shouldn't start bowing to pressure like Yahoo! did
to the french government over auctions selling Nazi
memorabilia.

Tom Chance


--- Christopher Mahan <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Alexander Braun <address@hidden>
> >
> >->However, GNE could take proactive action and
> specifically ask the 
> >agencies
> >->or departments in various countries to "check"
> the articles for legality.
> >->These government-controlled agencies could then
> decide, based on the 
> >article
> >->content:
> >->  -illegal/legal to host in servers located in
> this country.
> >->  -illegal/legal to display on browser viewed by
> a citizen of this 
> >country.
> >->
> >
> >But if we reject illegal stuff from some countries,
> we would run the risk
> >of just filtering out a lot of other stuff - e.g. a
> lot of stuff about
> >democracy because it might be not viewed in China.
> >
> >I was just thinking of an authorization system:
> authorized articles aren't
> >edited unauthorized articles are edited.
> authorization by sth. like gpg.
> >But that lead me only to the problem in another
> shape: then we would have
> >to edit the articles that are not authorized - and
> we would have the same
> >problems. I just mention it now, because perhaps
> somebody has a better
> >idea.
> >
> >BTW. even linking might be illegal.
> >
> 
> Well, I just mentioned that.
> 
> I think the article would be available, just not in
> that country.
> Well, actually, it would be available, after a HUGE
> giant "THIS ARTICLE IS 
> BANNED" sign at the front door.
> 
> Also, that country's banning of that article might
> make for an interesting 
> read: Read articles banned in China, for example.
> This could become a hall 
> of shame.
> 
> Linking would only be done throught the GNE central
> server, and that server 
> would know if the article linked to is banned in the
> destination country.
> 
> The Chinese, for example, might ban an article on
> Tibetan Monks, but only 
> Chinese readers in China would be affected by the
> ban. Everybody else would 
> see the article without problem.
> 
> This could also be a mark of distinction appearing
> on the article itself: 
> "Banned by the Chinese Government"
> 
> Chris
>
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