[Bug-gne]the problem of illegal content vs. freedom

[Tom Chance]

Alex,

I see your point about mirroring. Some people would
say "Oh simply keep contentious articles in countries
where they aren't illegal!". The problem with that is
linking to them... what if that one mirror goes down
for instance, or moves? We would need some very well
designed tracking systems to ensure that we don't face
many potential problems with each mirror holding
different information.

Yes ideologies will be very important, but we have to
work out some way of allowing every view possible. To
start with GNE will be hosted with GNU, so in the US I
assume, so we should get away with many contentious
issues but not all of them. The only thing I can
suggest is that some people get down to writing some
sort of perl script that would manage the problem of
mirrors holding different info, and of perhaps an
article only being held on one mirror. We'd then have
to hope we always had a mirror on which articles could
be stored. We'd also have to ask author's to tell us
if they think their article could be illegal in some
places, so we could store it with care and avoid any
future problems.

As nice as it would be to blatantly refuse not to obey
US Law, I think we might get more than we bargained
for if we did!

Tom Chance




--- Alexander Braun <address@hidden>
wrote: > Hi Tom,
> 
> in a way I share your opinion in a way I share
> Paul's
> 
> ->I can see the appeal of idealism here, but there's
> a practical difficulty as
> ->well. 
> 
> I share this idealism. But I think you got the
> point. 
> One ofthe prerequisites is the thought of mirroring
> GNE - and I hope
> someday I'm able to do this. And that's the point
> I'm concerned about.
> 
> On the one hand I think the freedom to write what I
> want is the highest
> goal. On the other I want to mirror the sites and
> not review every page,
> if it is a potential danger to my (also physical)
> freedom.
> 
> In Germany it's stricly forbidden to publish the
> holocaust-lie. I am sure
> that a lot of people will republish better articles
> if one of the NAZI's
> put such crap in GNE. Anyway - I got then this
> original article on my
> server and risk penalty without any sense in it. If
> I edit the site I
> betray my own consciousness. If I don't I betray my
> family (because they
> would actually suffer most from any penalty). It's a
> difficult situation.
> 
> And not to mirror the site if I got the technical
> prerequisites would also
> betray my philosophical background. 
> 
> Unfortunately their actually exist so called illegal
> contents. (Though I
> don't know how information or non-information can be
> illegal). Pedastry is
> another one and as far as I know it's also illegal
> in the US. So let's
> take this example. What if anybody puts a report on
> GNE how many different
> ways exist to abuse children - illustrated of
> course. (I for myself share
> the rage against this content and I am glad it is
> illegal - but that's
> only my opinion)
> 
> So wouldn't it be a damage for the project in the
> end ? Would GNE not risk
> to lose the fight for freedom while allowing it with
> all consequences?
> 
> I would be glad to get some handy reasons against
> that - not only to
> convince myself, but also to convince friends who
> could write articles
> or join technical efforts
> 
> greetings
>       alex
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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