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Re: [Bug-gnupedia]External Links in New Window


From: Tom Chance
Subject: Re: [Bug-gnupedia]External Links in New Window
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 12:06:03 -0800 (PST)

Yeah any "reference" like that would be fine IMO. Any
intelligent person can find the CNN web site and then
find that article themselves. We are giving them large
amounts of information without becoming too involved
with their commercial practice!

Tom Chance


--- Christopher Mahan <address@hidden> wrote:
> Yes, I see your point...
> 
> I think the reference in English language, like...
> 
> "CNN International reported on Jan 17, 2000 that the
> Indian Prime   
> Minister... so on and so forth..."
> 
> ...would in fact be preferable. No link, but a sure
> source for those who 
> wish to explore the subject further.
> 
> Look ma, no links!
> 
> 
> >From: Tom Chance <address@hidden>
> >Reply-To: address@hidden
> >To: address@hidden
> >Subject: Re: [Bug-gnupedia]External Links in New
> Window
> >Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 01:47:13 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >You couldm but it would still be linking to
> non-free
> >stuff. And I think thats one think we want to avoid
> >like the plague. Its like putting adverts on the
> page,
> >but putting beneath them "We have no association
> with
> >thses ads etc etc". Regardless of the stuff we
> write
> >on that redirection page, it doesn't change the
> fact
> >that we're linking there.
> >
> >Tom
> >
> >
> >--- Christopher Mahan <address@hidden>
> wrote:
> > > An interesting idea about external links:
> > >
> > > If we do the internal links like this (only an
> > > example)
> > > www.gne.org/articles?uid=123456789
> > >
> > > can't we do the links like:
> > >
> > >
> www.gne.org/external?linkid=www.yahoo.com/index.html
> > >
> > > and have an intersticial page that says, sort
> of:
> > >
> > > The link you have selected lies beyond the GNE.
> We
> > > are not responsible for
> > > its content, etc, etc, yadda yadda
> > >
> > > - Return to the article
> > >
> > > - Proceed to your link
> > >
> > > I think this would be very sensible.
> > >
> > > Also. the external links could also be given an
> ID,
> > > like the internal
> > > articles, and a script could occasionally check
> if
> > > the external links are
> > > broker, redirecting to other pages, or that sort
> of
> > > things. And the script
> > > could then email the author, and have him
> > > reestablish the correct
> > > resource...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Dan Geiser" <address@hidden>
> > > >Reply-To: address@hidden
> > > >To: address@hidden
> > > >Subject: Re: [Bug-gnupedia]External Links in
> New
> > > Window
> > > >Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 19:32:03 -0500
> > > >
> > > >Hi, Tom,
> > > >We weren't trying to justify including External
> > > Links as long as they were
> > > >in a separate window.  If External Links were
> OK'ed
> > > I was talking about
> > > >giving the UI the option of opening them in a
> > > separate window or not.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks,
> > > >Dan Geiser <address@hidden>
> > > >
> > > >>Linking to material external to GNE is never
> going
> > > to
> > > >>work because of potential violations to the
> GNU
> > > >>policy. Regardless of whether or not its a new
> > > window
> > > >>etc it will still make GNE non-free, linking
> to
> > > >>material that isnt' free.
> > > >>
> > > >>Tom Chance
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>--- Dan Geiser <address@hidden> wrote:
> >
> > > OK,
> > > >>then by default they WON'T open in a new
> window
> > > >> > but it's easy enough to
> > > >> > give people the option of having External
> Links
> > > open
> > > >> > in a new window or not.
> > > >> >   In fact many webloggers just provide a
> check
> > > box
> > > >> > on the page to enable or
> > > >> > disable it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Regards,
> > > >> > Dan Geiser <address@hidden>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >Pulp <address@hidden> writes:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > I feel (agree?) that we shouldn't have
> > > external
> > > >> > links as primary
> > > >> > > > resources.  I think it would be
> appropriate
> > > to
> > > >> > allow external links
> > > >> > > > as references in articles, so long as
> we
> > > clearly
> > > >> > distinguish between
> > > >> > > > internal links and external links.  We
> > > could
> > > >> > then make it clear that
> > > >> > > > external links are in no way cared-for
> or
> > > under
> > > >> > the umbrella of the
> > > >> > > > GNUPedia.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >I agree. I must rant that they shouldn't
> open
> > > new
> > > >> > browser windows,
> > > >> > >though ;) I hate that.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > >
> >
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