Re: tweaking default `ls -l` output to use locale before posix

[Paul Eggert]

Mike Frysinger <address@hidden> writes:

>> But before we go off the deep end here, why exactly is this change a
>> good idea?
>
> the idea is to make the default output as intuitive as possible ... imo, 
> defaulting to one's locale time format instead of a POSIX one makes more 
> sense ... but i wouldnt be suprised if others felt differently :)

Yes, it is a problem and quite possibly the right thing depends on the
locale and operating system.

I should emphasize again, though, that the current coreutils default
is not "a POSIX one" in the sense that you may be thinking.  The
coreutils default is an international format derived from ISO 8601.
This ISO-8601-derived format does conform to POSIX, but just about any
format would.  Even if you change coreutils so that
--time-style=locale is the default, coreutils is still defaulting to a
format that is "a POSIX one".