Re: Bug tracking

[Chet Ramey]

On 3/31/24 8:34 PM, Martin D Kealey wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Dec 2023, 05:19 Chet Ramey, <chet.ramey@case.edu 
> <mailto:chet.ramey@case.edu>> wrote:
>
>     On 11/30/23 5:18 AM, Martin D Kealey wrote:
>
>      > If there's a bug tracking system beyond "threads in a mailing list",
>     I'd
>      > like to know how I can get access to it.
>
>     https://savannah.gnu.org/support/?group=bash
>     <https://savannah.gnu.org/support/?group=bash>
>
>
> That's a good start, but it seems incomplete, and there's little -- perhaps 
> no -- overlap with bug reports in this list.
>
> Has bashbug always sent email to bug-bash@gnu.org 
> <mailto:bug-bash@gnu.org>, or was it previously fed into Savannah?

bashbug long predates savannah.

> Savannah seems too simplistic, as it ignores what happens after code is 
> written, and fails to distinguish other important steps. (Among other 
> things: it lacks a field for "intended release" and lacks numerous status 
> options including "awaiting design review", "awaiting code review", "ready 
> for release", & "release scheduled"; there's no link between bug reports 
> and the source repo (so management of pull requests); and it doesn't have 
> any form of continuous testing or integration.) And of course, it's 
> disconnected from this mailing list.

If you have suggestions for the savannah maintainers, I'm sure they would
be receptive.

> Perhaps bug tracking could be migrated to a more modern system? I know that 
> (for good reason) GNU projects won't use proprietary services like 
> Bitbucket or Github, but perhaps Bugtraq or Gitlab would be acceptable, or 
> maybe some other project management tool?

That's a GNU community decision. GNU projects use GNU tools.

> Aside from the shortcomings of Savannah itself, I'm concerned that bug 
> reports in Savannah can only be assigned to three people, two of whom have 
> been inactive for years. (I'm guessing they're the same people who can 
> update bugs.) Are we building a cathedral with gatekeepers, or a bazaar 
> where the masses can contribute?

What about savannah is keeping the masses from contributing? If you want to
work on a bug, work on it.

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Chet Ramey, UTech, CWRU    chet@case.edu    http://tiswww.cwru.edu/~chet/

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