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bug#24070: LaTeX mode doesn't load in 11.89.4


From: Arash Esbati
Subject: bug#24070: LaTeX mode doesn't load in 11.89.4
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 21:53:18 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13)

Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA> writes:

>> I was disabling some of the automatic setup. My original purpose of this
>> was to try to reduce my emacs startup time.
>
> In an ideal ELPA world, startup is fast because the automatic setup is
> cheap (just a few autoloads and such).  So if the automatic setup is too
> slow, that can be for one of two reasons:
> - some package(s)'s setup is too expensive.  You should then disable the
>   offending package's startup (by setting package-load-list), and report
>   the problem to the package's author.
> - each package's setup is fast but the overall setup ends up still
>   too slow.  Then please M-x report-emacs-bug complaining that ELPA's
>   automatic setup time is too expensive and needs to be re-designed.
>
>>> Auto-installing a list of packages seems mostly unrelated to whether
>>> (and how) you configure them, tho.
>> It does seem that way, but it is convenient (and I'm probably not the one
>> to argue on behalf of use-package).
>
> Similarly, I don't see why use of use-package would imply that you
> disable the automatic setup done by ELPA.  use-package should
> complement it, not replace it.
>
>> I decided to go to extra length to not run (package-initialize) because it
>> was significantly slowing my emacs start time and running
>> (package-initialize t) made it start faster.
>
> I would appreciate if you could investigate the actual source of slow
> down, because it's something that shouldn't happen,

No more comments, I'm therefore closing this report.

Best, Arash





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