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Re: [avr-gcc-list] multi-tasking source for education?
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Ned Konz |
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Re: [avr-gcc-list] multi-tasking source for education? |
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Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:47:52 -0700 |
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On Wednesday 28 April 2004 9:28 pm, Douglas Dotson wrote:
> > various FSM tasks based upon flags (semaphores) or
> > queue entries.
>
> flags == semaphores ?? I don't think so!
I didn't say that, Larry did. I'm well aware of the difference, and I suspect
that he is too.
> I do agree that preemptive is a lot trickier
> than cooperative scheduling to debug. At least
> until the system scales up.
Even when the system scales up, the use of higher-level concepts like
hierarchical state machines (with queues and monitors where required inside
the HSM implementations) will be far easier and less trouble prone than more
primitive abstractions like independent tasks and semaphores. If you design
your system correctly, each state machine can operate as a separate
RTOS-level preemptive task, while still providing the debugging and
understandability benefits of a cooperative system. By avoiding shared
resources completely (or burying them in state machine support code like the
plumbing for event queues), you don't have to worry about deadlock, priority
inversion, etc.
Big systems that expose semaphores directly may be designed at the wrong
level. Semaphores are primitive building blocks for more advanced concurrency
support, and shouldn't be exposed directly to the programmers of the
application code, if at all possible.
--
Ned Konz
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- [avr-gcc-list] multi-tasking source for education?, Jacob Verschoor, 2004/04/28
- Re: [avr-gcc-list] multi-tasking source for education?, Ned Konz, 2004/04/28
- Re: [avr-gcc-list] multi-tasking source for education?, Jacob Verschoor, 2004/04/28
- Re: [avr-gcc-list] multi-tasking source for education?, E. Weddington, 2004/04/28
- RE: [avr-gcc-list] multi-tasking source for education?, Larry Barello, 2004/04/28
- Re: [avr-gcc-list] multi-tasking source for education?, Ned Konz, 2004/04/28
- Re: [avr-gcc-list] multi-tasking source for education?, Douglas Dotson, 2004/04/29
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Ned Konz <=
- Re: [avr-gcc-list] multi-tasking source for education?, Douglas Dotson, 2004/04/29
- Re: [avr-gcc-list] multi-tasking source for education?, Ned Konz, 2004/04/28
Re: [avr-gcc-list] multi-tasking source for education?, Douglas Dotson, 2004/04/28
Re: [avr-gcc-list] multi-tasking source for education?, Matthew MacClary, 2004/04/29
Re: [avr-gcc-list] multi-tasking source for education?, Graham Davies, 2004/04/29