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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-4.0 0/6] vhost-user-blk: Add support for bac


From: Yongji Xie
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-4.0 0/6] vhost-user-blk: Add support for backend reconnecting
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 11:21:38 +0800

On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 at 11:00, Jason Wang <address@hidden> wrote:
>
>
> On 2018/12/12 上午10:48, Yongji Xie wrote:
> > On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 at 17:32, Jason Wang <address@hidden> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2018/12/6 下午9:59, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Dec 06, 2018 at 09:57:22PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> >>>> On 2018/12/6 下午2:35,address@hidden  wrote:
> >>>>> From: Xie Yongji<address@hidden>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This patchset is aimed at supporting qemu to reconnect
> >>>>> vhost-user-blk backend after vhost-user-blk backend crash or
> >>>>> restart.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The patch 1 tries to implenment the sync connection for
> >>>>> "reconnect socket".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The patch 2 introduces a new message VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_INFLIGHT
> >>>>> to support offering shared memory to backend to record
> >>>>> its inflight I/O.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The patch 3,4 are the corresponding libvhost-user patches of
> >>>>> patch 2. Make libvhost-user support VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_INFLIGHT.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The patch 5 supports vhost-user-blk to reconnect backend when
> >>>>> connection closed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The patch 6 tells qemu that we support reconnecting now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To use it, we could start qemu with:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> qemu-system-x86_64 \
> >>>>>            -chardev 
> >>>>> socket,id=char0,path=/path/vhost.socket,reconnect=1,wait \
> >>>>>            -device vhost-user-blk-pci,chardev=char0 \
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and start vhost-user-blk backend with:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> vhost-user-blk -b /path/file -s /path/vhost.socket
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then we can restart vhost-user-blk at any time during VM running.
> >>>> I wonder whether or not it's better to handle this at the level of virtio
> >>>> protocol itself instead of vhost-user level. E.g expose last_avail_idx to
> >>>> driver might be sufficient?
> >>>>
> >>>> Another possible issue is, looks like you need to deal with different 
> >>>> kinds
> >>>> of ring layouts e.g packed virtqueues.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>> I'm not sure I understand your comments here.
> >>> All these would be guest-visible extensions.
> >>
> >> Looks not, it only introduces a shared memory between qemu and
> >> vhost-user backend?
> >>
> >>
> >>> Possible for sure but how is this related to
> >>> a patch supporting transparent reconnects?
> >>
> >> I might miss something. My understanding is that we support transparent
> >> reconnects, but we can't deduce an accurate last_avail_idx and this is
> >> what capability this series try to add. To me, this series is functional
> >> equivalent to expose last_avail_idx (or avail_idx_cons) in available
> >> ring. So the information is inside guest memory, vhost-user backend can
> >> access it and update it directly. I believe this is some modern NIC did
> >> as well (but index is in MMIO area of course).
> >>
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> > If my understand is correct, it might be not enough to only expose
> > last_avail_idx.
> > Because we would not process descriptors in the same order in which they 
> > have
> > been made available sometimes. If so, we can't get correct inflight
> > I/O information
> > from available ring.
>
>
> You can get this with the help of the both used ring and last_avail_idx
> I believe. Or maybe you can give us an example?
>

A simple example, we assume ring size is 8:

1. guest fill avail ring

avail ring: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
used ring:

2. vhost-user backend complete 4,5,6,7 and fill used ring

avail ring: 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
used ring: 4 5 6 7

3. guest fill avail ring again

avail ring: 4 5 6 7 4 5 6 7
used ring: 4 5 6 7

4. vhost-user backend crash

The inflight descriptors 0, 1, 2, 3 lost.

Thanks,
Yongji



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