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Re: member returns list
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Pascal J. Bourguignon |
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Re: member returns list |
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Sat, 12 Sep 2015 01:29:43 +0200 |
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<tomas@tuxteam.de> writes:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 02:57:06AM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:
>> "Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
>> writes:
>>
>> >> Why don't you do a Lisp OS with Lisp-only software?
>> >
>> > Time. Money.
>>
>> OK, what I meant was actually again why Lisp is so
>> marginalized. Not only in "industry" (yuk, that is
>> a stupid word) but also in the systems we use every
>> day [...]
>
> See [1] for the historical perspective. Without Lisp machines
> there'd be no Smalltalk (and most of the OO craze these days).
No Smalltalk -> no lisa -> no Macintosh -> no MS-Windows and no NeXTSTEP
(Apple would be dead by now) -> MacOSX -> no iPad/iPhone.
No Java -> no Android.
Imagine if the bitmap displays were only used on high end workstations
for scientific data representation, and in low-end PC for games.
Most PC would still work with text screens.
> Emacs itself is an echo of those Lisp machines. Java owes a
> lot to Lisp. Just go digging and you''ll find Lisp roots
> everywhere.
>
> The fact is that Market Forces and the Invisible Hand always
> chooses wisely the best altenative (excuse my snark, had a
> bad day yesterday ;-)
>
> [1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp_machine>
>
> Regards
> -- tomás
--
__Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/
“The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a
dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to
keep the man from touching the equipment.” -- Carl Bass CEO Autodesk
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