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Anil |
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Re: Software/HD ecology |
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Tue, 17 Dec 2002 05:55:13 GMT |
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Stefan Monnier <foo@acm.com> wrote:
> >>>>> "Ajanta" == Ajanta <ajanta@no.spam> writes:
> > When I run a command like "ls -l file" I can get a lot of information
> > about a file's type, size, ownership, date created/modified. Whether
> > that qualifies as a "log" to somebody or not is a rather dull semantic
> > issue. The system does store and update information on files.
>
> These kinds of info are more akin to `state'. One major difference between
> `state' and `log' is that a `log' is `append only'. The info you describe
> is always kept uptodate but you can't know what it was before the last
> modification, so it's very clearly not a `log'.
I worry about many things, but this would be rather low on my list. If
something came with emacs, it remains with emacs. It doesn't become a
MS Office file! What *are* you talking about?
> Maybe it's dull, but it's not subtle. If you don't know what word to use,
> just use "info" or "thing" so you won't mislead readers.
I apologize. I didn't mean to mislead anyone. When I said unix logs
information, a few posts above, I was writing English and hoped people
would read it as English. How exactly were you misled, though?
Your suggestion is questionable too: "info" could also have technical
meaning to someone. Probably does. I see no alternative to relying on
other people's common sense to read English as English.
By the way, you had claimed elsewhere that Emacs files are
well-localized in the file systems. You didn't respond to my post that
on my system I find (just for the *name* emacs, not necessarily all
emacs-specific files):
/usr/bin/emacs
/usr/info/emacs
/usr/libexec/emacs
/usr/local/bin/emacs
/usr/share/emacs
/usr/share/info/emacs
The problem is not one program, emacs or something else. The problem is
fifty or hundred programs, each installing itself in a few places, each
doing so just a little differently. Then, without a standard
"uninstall" culture (which, someone did assure us, is becoming common),
we have a recipe for confusion.
Anil
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M-x ipconfig brings up an *Ipconfig8 buffer with lots of useful info
in it. I find that when I switch to the buffer interactively, I can
move about the whole buffer, but programmatically I seem to be limited
to the first line or two. Why can't I move about the buffer
programmatically? Is this just something I don't know, or a bug?
Thanks for help/pointers.
Peace,
--Peter
Details:
OS is Windows ME.
runemacs -q --no-site-file.
(emacs-version)
"GNU Emacs 21.2.1 (i386-msvc-windows98.3000)
of 2002-03-19 on buffy"
Yank/type into *scratch* and eval:
(defun phb-buffer-substr ()
(set-buffer (ipconfig))
(setq phb-str (buffer-substring (point-min) (point-max)))
(length phb-str))
=> phb-buffer-substr
(phb-buffer-substr)
=> 28
phb-str
=> "** Ipconfig ** ipconfig **
"
The actual contents of the *Ipconfig* buffer are as follows (with
addresses edited out):
** Ipconfig ** ipconfig **
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . : foo.bar.com
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
0 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : Fast Ethernet PC Card
Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 12 16 02 22:34:32
Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 10 21 08 22:17:28
1 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
2 Ethernet adapter :
Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . :
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
Primary WINS Server . . . . :
Secondary WINS Server . . . :
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
Process Ipconfig exited abnormally with code 1
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hi,
i'm writing a minor mode which binds some keys in a minor mode map. i
would like it to be turned on/off globally, but i also want it to be
disabled for some buffer types / major modes.
the best 'trick' would be, i think, to be able to advice the mode
variable (a.k.a ittay-mode) so that when its value is gotten it will
actually run a function that, based on the current buffer and the
global value will return t/nil. then i put the mode variable and the
map in minor-mode-map-alist.
how can this be done? (i've tried using defcustom with :get, but
simply evaluating the variable's value doesn't go through it). I don't
want to make it local and set its values based in hooks.
thanx,
ittay
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marcel-sl@gmx.de (Marcel Schmittfull) writes:
> Is it possible to tell emacs that whenever I type a certain
> keybinding, f.e. C-x M-<TAB> or so, emacs behaves as if I typed
> M-<TAB> ? I.e. I don't want to change the M-<TAB> keybinding for every
> single mode, I just want to have a certain global keybinding which
> replaces M-<TAB> globally. Is this possible ?
I have this in my .emacs to fight the same problem in MS Windows
(global-set-key [(hyper /)] (lambda () (interactive) (funcall
(key-binding "\M-\t"))))
Change hyper-/ to whatever you like.
--
With regards, Roman.
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