Re: [GNUnet-developers] [OpenWrt-Devel] [LEDE-DEV] [OpenWrt] Project proposal: The GNUnet of autonomous Things

[Martin Schanzenbach]

On Sat, 2016-12-03 at 13:41 +0100, Daniel Golle wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> On Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 09:49:52AM +0000, address@hidden wrote:
> > > as Kathy mentioned as first answer to Daniel, a proper setup
> > > running
> > 
> > GNUnet on our boards could give us a boost in the IoT world.
> > 
> > It won't boost anything because GNUnet is broken and unusable.
> > Please stop
> 
> How did you get to this conclusion?
> To me, after having looked at and used all available P2P overlay
> networks I could find, GNUnet is still the most advanced (in terms of
> security and privacy) and most reliable thing I could find. (and I've
> tried cjdns, tinc, n2n and of course tor)
> I'm currently using gnunet-vpn to traverse NAT/firewalls for remote
> access and management without the need for any central service and
> thus
> single point of failure. Using GNS identities to manage access
> control
> is quite straight forward and I'm not aware of any alternative
> approach
> which could potentially meet the same goals.

Same here. GNS+VPN is great for replacing dyndns+open router ports.

> 
> 
> > following buzzwords and fads, fix GNUnet and make it usable before
> > bringing
> > more bugs to the already bug-ridden IoT.
> 
> Having actual users of long-existing low-level features (overlay vpn
> with cryptographic identifiers) brings in a lot of testing without
> adding new requirements. Making low-bandwidth applications which do
> not require any database backend work first also seems like a very
> good approach to me -- once that's well-tested in diverse
> environments
> (think: different home networks with their NAT routers, mobile ISPs
> with awkward traffic policies, ...) we can proceed more easily and
> have more complex and demanding applications on top (such as
> file-sharing or real-time video conferencing).
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Daniel
> 
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